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• to whatever the County stated with regards to the .access: Mr. Goodrich advised the County has-given strong reasons as to why the access should not be allowed, but does end up allowing the access. It is possible, but slim, that the final plat could be denied based on t12e safety concerns of allowing the access. Mayor Gamec commented that access off of 146th Avenue would require a very long cul-de-sac, and cul-de-sac length is limited by ordinance. Councilmember Look stated if the cul-de-sac does not meet the ordinance requirements and the County requires the temporary access to be shut down there will be seven homes that are landlocked if the center property does not comply. Mayor Gamec stated his opinion is that there should be two accesses; there would be one access now with a future access to 146th Avenue. Councilmember Strommen pointed out when the access to Highway 5 is closed it would return to one access. Assistant Community Development Director Frolik indicated the County has said the temporary access will remain until there is a through street all the way to 146th Avenue. Associate Planner Dames indicated there would also be anon-conforming cul-de-sac of over 600 feet. Councilmember Dehen stated there will be a cul-de-sac either way; if it is approved as it is presented it includes a cul-de-sac, and if there is access from 146th Avenue or Helium Street the access onto Highway 5 will be terminated resulting in a cul-de-sac. Councilmember Elvig stated this is a challenged piece of properly that will require a long cul-de-sac if the Highway 5 access is shut off at some time. There is precedent for that with the availability of urban service and the location right. along Highway 5. There was .another project that was challenged like this that included a long cul-de-sac and no access except from Highway 47. Fire Chief Kapler noted that project along Highway 47 • included a privacy fence. He noted according to the scale of this project the cul-de-sac may not be much longer than 350 feet. Councilmember Strommen stated she agrees that this development needs to be figured out, but she would want to see the cul-de-sac design on the southern portion.. Part of her concenl is headlights with the road coming so close to Highway 5. Councilmember Elvig suggested the motion include direction to staff to come back with an adequate plan for a cul-de-sac turnaround and additional screenuig. City Attorney Goodrich suggested tabling this to resolve the fairly major issues that have been raised. Associate Planner Dalnes indicated a decision needs to be made within the. next month. There are two meetings before there will be a timeframe problem. Councihnembers Elvig and Olson withdrew the motion on the floor. Motion by Councilmeiiiber Elvig, seconded by Councilmember Olson, to table the final plat of GAD's Prairie, and to direct staff to look at the cul-de-sacs and screening, with the Fire Chief to weigh in on the cul-de-sac. Further discussion: Councilmember Jeffrey stated this was sent back for traffic issues previously, and he is not sure this resolves those concerns. Traffic from this development will. dump directly onto Highway 5 from one access, and that is a safety issue. They need to take more accesses off of Highway 5 and slow the traffic down. Mayor Gamec asked if Councilmember Jeffrey would be in support of all the traffic accessing onto 146th Avenue. Councilmember Jeffrey replied he is trying to figure the safest way to put people on Highway 5, and this does not fit. Councilmember Dehen stated the County had • some real issues with this, which is outlined on pages .186 and 187. He has some issues -337-