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Public Uv'orlcs Director Qlson stated that those is just under 5 mhos ofpaved struts in-the City. Chair llvig revietived some of the thins that the Council needs tv clarify so a precedent isn't set, which would be included in t~ndings of fact, so there are weapons against future developments that try tv ta)ce this angle. Councilrnc:rtiber Dehen stated thafi lle doesn't know if findings of fact will :help. Ms. Brown-Nelson stated that the people that use this street are going to be the ones that live there. Chair Elvig stated that the City can develop findings of fact that suggest that there are several anomalies with this road that don't happen commonly that. would drive this forward to take a look at a 22 foot wide toad and not set a precedent. He stated that the reside=nts are saying no to the project, as proposed, so if the City wants it paved, then something will need to change. Councilmember Dehen stated that he is not an engineer and doesn't know what the right width is, He stand that he supports getting roads paved and is concerned about having room for two vehicles to pass on a road that is only 2? foot wide. Chair 1~lvig stated that he Feels the residents are fine with a 1 d~fv9t dirt read, Councilmember McGlone stated that Ramsey is pert of the seven county motto area and the City has to. corne up with standards because those will be even more people in the future. 1-Ie stated that staff has whittled the standard down to 24 feet and~what the residents are asking for is below standard and vvi11 set a precedent for other areas of the City. Motion by Cauncilmember McGlone, seconded by Councilmember Dehen, to recommend to the City Council; 1. Construct a 24 foot wide roadway located within a 50 foot right-of--way centered 18 feet of the common N/S property line. between properties on the east and west sides of Ute Street, except at 18043 Ute Street where the right-of--way shall be 33 feet east of the street centerline, and that the road bend in some may to accommodate future septic needs for certain households; ?. Construct a cul de sac having a paved radius of 3Q feet and a right of way radius of 40 feet; 3. Finance the storm sewer easement acquisition costs through the storm sewer utility, and the street right of way costs as the other street element cost with 5U°fv of costs borne by the property owners and SOp~~ as a City cost. irurther Discussion: CounGilmember Dehen asked if that would include the limitation an taking, of any property, which he would suggest to reduce right of way, as suggested by Mr, Lidding. tlmended motion by Councilmember 1VIcGIone, seconded by Councilrnember Dehen, to include that the right-ot=way acquisition be limited as suggested by Mr. Lidding, Further Discussion: NIx: Lidding suggested that the City come up with an estimate on costs for the residents to consider. City Engineer Jankowski stated that once they get the width of the road, they will rework the numbers and send that information out to everyone. Councilmember Public Works Committee /February 17, 2009 Page 14 of 19 -123-