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as much as they would want to be. I think the message is getting to them — they need to do their job. Commissioner Ramsey stated that originally this was set up where there was a wall. Staff thought it was important to be peeking over the fence. Do not worry about other staff. Heidi Nelson and Darren Lazan would bring it to staff when they were ready. Commissioner Backous stated that looking at productivity — keep people happy. People like to feel like their opinions are being valued — there is more to that than just money. You have to be working together to be happy — we need to figure out how to make it work. The boss I used to work for who came on after I had been there for 17 years — she would ask for my input and then would say — no we won't do that. My opinion was not being valued — you need to look at the morale thing. Commissioner Elvig stated that everyone is spot on. This has to be run like a business. People on the outside do not like working with cities. If we are going to be effective and I agree with Kurt — this is unprecedented. We have to take our Councilmembers hats off when we are sitting in this room as the HRA. We can describe what we are doing but it's too hard to live it still. We have to find a way to make this more comfortable — maybe some tools to help come up with something. Maybe have the HRA, City Council and staff all sit down and discuss this. Commissioner Backous stated he would agree with that. He just feels communication is not there. Commissioner Wise asked are we talking communication or are we talking egos. Staff has to be buying in the same way City Council had to buy in. Mr. Ulrich stated we need to push egos out coordination in — show team support. Commissioner Ramsey stated we go to these meetings and hear comments and we sit down and champion the project — any time I am in a meeting and someone brings up a deal point what can we do. That's up to the dealmakers — City staff. We may know the name and face but we are not getting a lot of information. I am not getting any information — I hear stuff as I am walking around City Hall. Commissioner Backous reported he has a flexible schedule and he would like to be in some of these meetings if he knows about them. Chair Jeffrey stated that if a calendar is available for some of these meetings, it would be of good value to him. If you do not know what's going on you cannot get in on what's going on. Commissioner McGlone stated that he is here to do a job. He added, "people who elected me sent me to do that job. I have more time. I have the authority to do that." Everything we are doing is unprecedented. We are writing the book on it as we go. This is working — these people answer to the HRA — referring to Lazan and Nelson. Housing and Redevelopment Authority / February 1, 2011 Page 10 of 12