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I <br />I <br />I <br />I <br />I <br />I <br />I <br />I <br />I <br /> <br />11/21/94 <br /> <br />PRESENT: <br /> <br />Ryan Schroeder <br />Steve Jankowski <br />Mark Boos <br />Sylvia Frolik <br />Tom Anderson <br /> <br />This meeting was to discuss development of a pedestrian transportational trail along #47 in lieu of <br />park dedication for Rum River Hills Townhouses and in lieu of the City's flexibility in allowing <br />the somewhat premature development of townhouses. <br /> <br />Mark Boos stated that the City is looking for development of a pedestrian/bike trail on the east side <br />of #47 from 167th south to 164th Lane in Barthels addition. <br /> <br />Mr. Anderson stated that the golf course is owned by 7 individuals and they are planning to <br />construct a maintenance building in the southwest comer of the course. The trail would provide <br />good access to the maintenance building for golf carts so he is confident that the owners of the golf <br />course won't have a problem dedicating trail easement. However, a dual use <br />(recreational/maintenance) of the trail may require a width wider than 8 feet to make it a safe trail. <br />Mr. Boos agreed that dual use requires a wider width. <br /> <br />Mr. Anderson stated that the trail has will cross the golf course parking lot and they cannot afford <br />to lose any parking spaces. Mr. Anderson stated that he owns Lot 1, Block 6 of the PUD and he <br />would also like the trail to extend north through that parcel. However, that parcels accepts <br />drainage from the shopping center across the street and that drainage has developed into a wetland. <br />He knows from recent legislation that it will be difficult to run the trail through what he feels is an <br />"accidental" wetland. Mr. Anderson inquired if it would be a possibility that the DNR would <br />consider the ponds created in the development of the golf course as mitigating the filling of the new <br />wetland for nail construction. <br /> <br />Mr. Jankowski stated that with wetlands, the following rules apply -- avoid, minimize and <br />mitigate. If you can avoid impacting a wetland, you don't even look at minimizing and mitigating <br />as options. <br /> <br />Mr. Anderson stated that the course owners may be willing to dedicate the trail for the easement <br />and apply Class 5 to it, but he knows that they don't have any intention of paving it. They feel that <br />because of the Rum River Hills agreement, there really isn't any park dedication due on the <br />Townhouses. Even if there were, the value of the land alone equals the $8400 the City says is due <br />for park dedication. <br /> <br />Mr. Schroeder indicated that we are talking two separate entities. The owners of the golf course <br />and the developers of the townhouses. The developers of the townhouses are the ones responsible <br />for acquiring the trail property and if the owners of the golf course want to donate it, that is fine. <br />But it is the developers of the townhouses that are responsible for paving it, not the owners of the <br />golf course. Mr. Schroeder indicated to Mr. Anderson that in other areas, development of <br />rransportational trails, which is what #47 is, were required in addition to park dedication and were <br />not credited towards park dedication because they are transportational in nature. Those developers <br />had to provide the land, grading, Class 5 and paving of transportational trails in addition to their <br />regular park dedication obligations. Also, when staff first met with Mr. Dom, there was <br />discussion of what amenity could be provided to the City in exchange for the flexibility of allowing <br />townhouses to develop without City sewer and water. Many options were looked at and the City <br />has decided upon trail construction along #47 that includes paving. <br /> <br /> <br />
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