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Commissioner Ramsey noted that the alignment is fine but asked why the raised medians. Development Manager Lazan responded this is typical roundabout spacing. Commissioner Ramsey asked why concrete — paint is much cheaper and easier to plow around. Mr. Lazan stated that creating hard channelization is the way for the roundabout, however, we can relook at that. One unique component to this roundabout is a lane to the right to prevent traffic backup. Commissioner McGlone felt that the area would be problematic — a plowing nightmare. Mr. Lazan stated we will do a blow -up of this and walk through it. Commissioner Tossey stated he will never be supportive with any roundabout plan. He talked about social engineering and stated this is ludicrous. Commissioner Ramsey pointed out that roundabouts are starting to become more common and noted that the ones he has driven on are efficient. He expressed his support of this but added that Mr. Lazan needs to show us that scale so we can see how big it is. This makes sense because you can get many more trucks on it. Chairperson Elvig talked about the efficient roundabouts he's driven on as well. When we talked about a big box development in the area, they were talking about 700 cars an hour just for that retail establishment. You are talking about a lot of volume. Mr. Lazan stated that the interior component can be widened. We can go to a two -lane but we are designing for 30 years build -out. He noted that he understands the concerns and talked about a T- intersection but stated that the roundabout is really the only way to go. Commissioner McGlone stated he is not against roundabouts. Commissioner Tossey stated to go ahead and build the roundabout but he guaranteed that in 10 years, you will be putting in a T- intersection. He felt this is a waste of money. He asked why the thought is that traffic will be backed up so far. People will figure out ways to get in and out. Commissioner Ramsey stated it's the County and everyone saying you cannot stack traffic there. Commissioner Backous stated he had no problems with roundabouts — he feels they are efficient and convenient. He added he would rather have this than a stop sign or stop lights. Chairperson Elvig stated he is concerned about stacking in the parking lot like at Kohl's in Riverdale. If everyone is funneling out of one place to leave — that's an issue. Discussion ensued about poor traffic patterns in other areas. Housing and Redevelopment Authority / November 1, 2011 Page 6 of 9