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Housing & Redevelopment Authority - Work Session
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Development Manager Lazan advised of the discrepancy that exists between the area <br />calculations /unit counts and engineering calculations on trip generation. The trip counts were <br />calculated when residential units were at 2,500 and 2,800. However, staff realized there was a <br />disconnect with the Comprehensive Plan housing unit count following one path and the <br />engineering calculations a different path. When staff tried to pull them together, it resulted in <br />1,500 housing units as being the maximum that the existing transportation system and <br />improvements, over time, can accommodate Development Manager Lazan noted the <br />Metropolitan Council put a lot of money into this project and wants to know where it is going. <br />He explained density can be created to meet more of the Metropolitan Council's goals; however, <br />it will result in a further gap in the engineering side in what traffic can be accommodated. <br />Development Manage Lazan stated an in -depth traffic analysis was not conducted when the <br />HRA started the AUAR so increasing beyond the maximum will necessitate diving into numbers <br />at each access point and where density falls. <br />Commissioner Tossey raised the option of meeting the Metropolitan Council's goals half way, <br />by eliminating or limiting the scope of Lake Ramsey and increasing housing on the north side. <br />He stated concern that townhouses may not be feasible in the area north of Bunker, Section 22, <br />due to the topography. <br />Development Manager Lazan explained the density can be increased in The COR without <br />reducing Lake Ramsey but trips in and out need to be addressed. He stated staff will get <br />aggressive on the internal trips we capture to solve some of the traffic trips. <br />Commissioner Strommen asked whether the traffic studies done on the original plan for 2,500 <br />housing units was flawed so it needed to be redesigned to 1,500 housing units. <br />Development Manager Lazan explained when you take the 2,500 -unit number and trip matrix, <br />the math does not work. The number of trips calculated for 2,500 housing units was much lower <br />than it should have been for that number of rooftops. <br />Commissioner Strommen noted the reality is that it was redesigned to meet the market of today, <br />not when the Ramsey Town Center was designed. She stated she understands the Metropolitan <br />Council wanting 2,500 housing units, but it is a different world today. <br />Mayor Ramsey stated the Metropolitan Council was told they would get 2,500 housing units so it <br />invested in the community. But, the City re- visioned the project for a reason, because it did not <br />meet market reality. <br />Development Manager Lazan stated the HRA can make the numbers work through internal <br />capture and densification. He noted the reality is that the HRA took out what is arguably the <br />least quality suburban density (sea of townhomes) and put energy into a transit village with 70 <br />units /acre, a train station, and plazas, so it is frustrating to work through this issue when Ramsey <br />is doing what Metropolitan Council wants for TOD grants. <br />Senior Planner Gladhill stated staff can present to the Metropolitan Council that Highway 10 <br />improvements are needed to gain that density and the full picture needs to be looked at. <br />Housing and Redevelopment Authority / May 1, 2012 <br />Page 5 of 8 <br />
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