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Public Works Director Olson stated he is unable to answer the question about reduction in the <br />level of service or who will take on the burden of the work he has undertaken over the course of <br />the last 12 years. <br />City Administrator Ulrich stated the budget as presented in the last scenario would use more <br />contracted services and leave a base of staffing, which could include an intern. That proposal <br />has not been reviewed by the Personnel Committee. He explained the Public Works Director <br />position can be filled, replaced with a consultant, partly covered by an engineering intern, or not <br />replaced and the work responsibilities divided among staff. He supported a solution that kept the <br />money in the budget at a full funding level to allow for either scenario because those duties need <br />to be covered in some form or another, especially if road projects are increased. <br />Councilmember Elvig noted cuts in engineer are a "double whammy" because outsourcing <br />engineering also outsources the revenue stream and budget projections include some revenue <br />from projects. <br />Finance Officer Lund stated the amount is $236,000 and she had factored in a $100,000 <br />decrease. <br />Public Works Director Olson explained that over the course of the last three years, the <br />Engineering Department has provided more revenue than expenditures. <br />Councilmember Elvig asked what is the impact to Engineering staff if the Council adds $3 <br />million of road projects. <br />Public Works Director Olson expressed concern with staff's ability to handle that level of road <br />projects if his position is not filled. He explained how project costs and contingencies are <br />calculated, noting some consulting engineers charge a 24% overhead and staff generally charges <br />18-21% but it can be as low as 15 %. <br />Councilmember Elvig agreed there is an anomaly with engineering and if talking about raising <br />funds, the City can either keep it in house and parlay those funds, or pay it out of house. He <br />stated he wants to make sure the City maximizes its net revenue capture. <br />Mayor Ramsey stated staff can figure that out but he wants to protect against saying the City <br />needs a level of staff to maximize money coming in for six months but then carrying those staff <br />costs the other six months. <br />Councilmember Elvig noted that is why staff uses interns and consultants for peaks. <br />Councilmember McGlone asked why government does not just charge what it costs. <br />Public Works Director Olson stated from an engineering's perspective, the beauty of staffing for <br />baseline improvements is the flexibility to stop plan preparation and do plan review if growth <br />starts. In addition, it provides more consistency in how residents are treated. He noted that last <br />year, staff was so busy that it could not respond to resident's concerns as fast as it wanted to. <br />City Council Work Session / May 1, 2012 <br />Page 9 of 15 <br />