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PUDs in shoreline areas, transfer development rights, and how to entice developers to choose cluster development. Councilmember Backous agreed with concerns relating to property rights but indicated he likes to hear all viewpoints and information. He felt the Council cannot make good decision without it and was willing to let experts advise the Council, noting the Council always states rationale for its decisions. Mayor Ramsey felt the issue with density credits is that no one takes into consideration the resident's reason for moving to Ramsey, large lot development. He did not think residents would support cluster development and he would argue the fact that a smaller lot will not bring more money than a larger lot. Councilmember Strommen noted she moved to a smaller lot than she had in Ostego and asked why the Council approved an apartment building if all residents want a large lot. Mayor Ramsey explained development is being done to put density here so residents can still have their large lots. He noted that making the Hunt property preserve 30% for open space is not consistent with what is in outer Ramsey. Councilmember Strommen stated she hopes someone will move here to live in an apartment. Councilmember Elvig stated this is the "backbone" for the entire development of the City and the Council is now on board with growth. He noted the Comprehensive Plan anticipates areas of growth with different density and he has seen, many times, where density is put in several areas with large green space that could never have been afforded otherwise. He felt having more tools was a benefit but the Council will decide whether to move forward with any of the recommendations. Ms. Coleman explained that Rice County was dealing with "4 in 40" and the benefit was to get an additional two units. Mayor Ramsey commented that when you create that green space, people want it to be a park. However, with large lot development, people recreate on their own property and there is no need for a park. Councilmember Elvig pointed out there is an evolution with parks because he had created a "park" on his own land but then trails opened so now his kids can get to parks to play with others on those fields. Mayor Ramsey stated while he was reluctant to support this request, if it is simply to compile data and use the EPB, not staff time, he would not put up a fuss. Councilmember Tossey stated before he would consider this request he wants to see what students have done with other government entities. He remained very cautious and concerned. City Council Work Session / October 18, 2011 Page 4 of 11