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explained the terms are useful for law enforcement in prosecuting these cases. City Attorney <br />Langel stated the drafted ordinance is reflective of ordinances from surrounding communities <br />and the idea is to get a `firm handle' on an industry that can take some very bad direction. <br />Councilmember Kuzma stated on two occasions, he has been in meetings during which Anoka <br />County Sheriff Steward addressed the real problem in Anoka County with human trafficking, <br />which is more prevalent than any want to believe. He asked Police Captain Katers for his <br />position on the ordinance as drafted and if it will be a helpful tool. <br />Police Captain Katers stated he trusts the City Attorney to draft the appropriate ordinance and <br />that it will contain enough language to successfully enforce. He advised that they are seeing <br />larger illegal organizations involved with human trafficking and prostitution within the massage <br />industry. He stated this ordinance or something similar to the City's current pawn ordinance or <br />liquor ordinance would be appropriate. Police Captain Katers stated currently, if they attempted <br />to shut down a massage business, they could individually remove and arrest the person but could <br />not close the business unless the City revoked their business certificate. <br />Councilmember LeTourneau stated during the Council's previous discussion, he did not have a <br />good grasp of the issues and was relatively supportive of removing some of the language. <br />However, now after reading the attorney's memorandum, it has given him a better idea of how <br />precarious this industry is, that trafficking, slavery, and prostitution are commonly related, and <br />he does not want those activities in Ramsey. He felt the current draft allowed the City to be <br />proactive rather than reactive. Councilmember LeTourneau agreed that the proposed application <br />process is involved and may frustrate someone making application but it also provides a lot of <br />protections. He stated he does not want an `easy road' for illegal activities to come into Ramsey <br />so he would support reinserting the language while returning it to its original form. <br />Councilmember Johns agreed the memorandum shed a lot of light on the issues. She noted <br />application information is asked relating to their training and asked if they would be required to <br />be certified. She stated she reviewed many ordinances from other communities and did not think <br />the first ordinance draft required anything extraordinary when considering what other <br />communities are requiring. Councilmember Johns asked if there will be a specific requirement <br />for training. <br />City Attorney Langel explained the new draft does not contain that requirement but it could be <br />added. He explained that masseuse training is not regulated as is required for beauty salons <br />and/or barbers. The issue is where the masseuse would get the training and who would be <br />certifying that training so he would ask what is the validity of requiring training in the first place. <br />City Attorney Langel stated that may be the reason that requirement is not contained in <br />ordinances of other cities. <br />Councilmember Backous asked how this ordinance would impact businesses such as hair salons <br />that also have a masseuse. <br />City Attorney Langel stated if they are providing full massage services, they would be required <br />to make application for a license. <br />City Council Work Session / September 9, 2014 <br />Page 6 of 9 <br />