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He indicated there are a lot of loop roads for public safety, but they would like to keep the roads <br />private, so that is one issue they will want to revisit. He stated if they make them public streets it <br />will make the 'distance between homes further away, and he thinks that will add up over the <br />entire project. He indicated it would be best to discuss this with Staff and maybe at a work <br />session and project what it will do to the overall plan if they increase the distance between homes <br />all the way through. <br /> <br />Mr. Keely showed a revised drawing based on discussions with Staff and City Planners. He <br />indicated the reason the original plan showed the setbacks exceeding 20 feet was a <br />misunderstanding of where Ramsey Boulevard is at. He does not think there is still a concern <br />and 20 feet should work. He stated the setback issue on the central road goes away with it <br />becoming a public street. He indicated the back to back units is where the issue comes in. He <br />stated if they .keep them as private roads with 25 feet driveway it exceeds the setback for a public <br />road but not a private one. <br /> <br />Mr. Keely indicated that as far as green space, adding to the front of the homes does add a <br />setback issue.: He stated the design team does not have a preference. He indicated the final <br />factor is the character of the space. They had talked about the space being more private and for <br />personal use, Whereas the front space makes it more public. He stated there are also factors <br />concerning water quality and snow storage. He thinks it is a good plan, but reminded the <br />Commission this is Phase I. In being Phase I they want to set precedent so they do not continue <br />to fight the same battles, and because they want to keep the plan to what they envisioned. <br /> <br />Chairperson Nixt asked if they were proposing the units on Ramsey Boulevard ingress and egress <br />on Ramsey Boulevard. <br /> <br />Mr. Keely indicated there will be a trail along Ramsey Boulevard, but most of the units are <br />accessed through the back. <br /> <br />Commissioner Brauer commented the back to back units do not seem to have a fi.ont. <br /> <br />Mr. Keely noted that was why they were back to back units. He stated there are a lot of these <br />around town, boing a pretty prevalent unit. He indicated the design makes them more affordable, <br />and the market likes them. <br /> <br />Commissioner Brauer asked if there was green space set aside for the units on the other side of <br />the main road. <br /> <br />Mr. Keely indicated there is a green space, although less than originally planned. <br /> <br />Chairperson Ni×t asked who was driving the more public green space on the revised plan. <br /> <br />Assistant Community Development Director Trudgeon indicated it was Staff's preference. <br /> <br />Planning Commission/December 4, 2003 <br /> Page 7of 20 <br /> <br /> <br />