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Mayor Strommen asked if City Attorney Langel and the Police Department are comfortable with <br />the language of the ordinance to assure it meets the Council's concerns and can be enforced <br />without over reaching. <br />City Attorney Langel explained if the establishment is forced to give certain information, those <br />who are creative with their license will be reluctant to provide that information and obtain a <br />license. He stated he would like to 'see the ordinance language that was removed to be reinserted <br />including the requirement to provide past addresses as it would aid the Police Department in <br />tracking the establishment, deterring illicit acts, and enforcing the ordinance. <br />Police Captain Katers concurred and stated any tool available for enforcement is a benefit to the <br />Police Department and ultimately the community. He stated there is an issue with massage <br />therapist establishments in Ramsey and the Police Department has worked with the Anoka <br />County Sheriff's Department to do undercover work and address issues raised by neighboring <br />businesses. The intent is to assure the businesses are operating legally and the City has the tools <br />needed for enforcement. Police Captain Katers explained that because there is a lack of State <br />law regulating these establishments, it is left to counties and cities to have such an ordinance. <br />Police Captain Katers agreed that address history, similar to other applications, is important as it <br />relates to past criminal practices and shows the Police Department whether the business is being <br />run by someone in the metro area, outside of the metro area, operates additional establishments, <br />or only a single establishment. <br />Councilmember Riley stated having an ordinance in place is very important, which staff has <br />made clear. He stated he has also heard that the five -year history of addresses should be re- <br />inserted into the ordinance as it is recommended by the City Attorney and Police Department. <br />Councilmember Riley stated he does not want the language to over reach and be unfriendly to <br />business as this ordinance will create a hurdle that illicit establishments may not even attempt to <br />hurdle. He felt it contained language to allow good businesses to exist while keeping out illegal <br />activity. <br />Councilmember Kuzma stated he found the survey spoke volumes, due to the non - response, as <br />being a vote of support for the ordinance: He stated if there had been a lot of objection, those <br />business owners would have shown up in force at tonight's meeting. Councilmember Kuzma <br />supported adding the requirement for address history. <br />The consensus of the Council was to add the requirement for address history. <br />Councilmember LeTourneau asked if Item 8, relating to training and educational casework, is <br />needed and what is the extended value. <br />City Attorney Langel advised that provision was taken from other licensing ordinances and is <br />basically to expose if an establishment hires an untrained therapist that is not providing massage <br />therapy. In addition, when it is required to set forth their training, it works towards a deterrent <br />effect. <br />City Council Work Session / November 25, 2014 <br />Page 2 of 7 <br />