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Planning and Zoning Commission - Special
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already happened, and we're beginning to <br />see a perceived quality increase in <br />Downey. People from outside who are <br />looking for a place to invest are beginning <br />to consider Downey. In fact, our firm, <br />which has built office buildings and shop- <br />ping centers in Texas, Nevada, and Califor- <br />nia, is now looking at a site here. One thing <br />a lot of people are considering now is what <br />are called "promotional centers," small <br />ahopplng centers with a supermarket and <br />a soft goods store like a Loehmann's. <br />Developers are beginning to realize that <br />places like Downey are underserved by <br />· olt goods outlets. <br /> The new hotel will help attract new <br /> <br />businesses. Now you need some more <br />restaurants around lt. Then you'd have a <br />hook. But you've also got to atimulate the <br />businesses that are here already. For exam- <br />ple, I think Stonewood isout of date. l'd gut <br />it, cover it, and bring in all new tenants. But <br />the present owners aren't going to do that. <br />To really get things moving would require <br />creating a massive special assessment <br />district, and politically thal would be tough. <br /> Tustian. As a way of mobilizing sup- <br />port, it might be a good idea to present peo- <br />ple with a scenario of what the strip would <br />be like if the government took no action. <br /> Beckman. Instead of an assessment <br />district, you might be able to do it with a <br />joint-venture development corporation, <br />which would make the property owners <br />partners with a developer. There are a lot <br />of creative tools that you might be able to <br />use. But before you worry about a tool, you <br />need some public consensus. <br /> We know that redevelopment used to be <br />a dirty word in Downey. But now that at- <br />titude is beginning to change. So maybe you <br />can get some public discussion of these <br />issues. And maybe it would be a good idea, <br />as somebody already suggested, to work on <br />one segment of the corridor at a time. Pick <br />out the part that's the highest priority for <br />you and try to get a consensus on it. <br /> Itamilton. That might work for the <br />auto row. You don't need redevelopment <br />there at all. Instead of buying the prop- <br />erties, the city could set up a joint develop- <br />ment corporation and then work with <br />developers to move ahead. <br /> Heckman. And ffyou can pyramidon <br /> the auto dealers' cooperation with tax incre- <br /> ment financing, you can create a thing that <br /> will nurture itself. It's easy for the public to <br /> see that the dealerships are a strong <br /> economic force in the community and that <br /> you really have to do something to keep <br /> them. So assembling the land for the auto <br /> centers shouldn't be ail that controversial. <br /> One of your fundamental tenets ought to <br /> be to try to keep what's good here. And part <br /> of that is the auto dealerships. You want to <br /> be sure they don't steal away in the dead of <br /> night and wind up in a neighboring com- <br /> munity. <br /> gitst/an. I'd like to ask Jay Meehan why <br /> the private market doesn't seek to use the <br /> excess zoning capacity that's here already. <br /> Why does the city have to be the engine of <br /> change? <br /> Meehan. The reason is that, while <br /> there is a lot of desire for investment, it's <br /> also true that investors are looking for the <br /> least risky opportunities. Downey is still <br /> perceived as a marginal location, and that's <br /> because it has had such helter-skelter <br /> development in the past. In some areas, it <br /> <br />reminds me of Houston, because of the lack <br />of clearly set out development standards. <br /> What this town really needs is more <br />political support of the planning staff. The <br />tools are here, the balls and bats are on the <br />field. Now we've got roger some guys in city <br />hall who will say, 'Play ball.~ <br /> I agree that Downey is a good place for of- <br />rices. The trouble always comes back to im- <br />age. Downey isn't perceived as a document- <br />intensive city, like Los Angeles, for <br />stance, a place where documents have to be <br />hand-delivered for recording or to bring to <br />a judge. But irs not a people-intensive city <br />either because there aren't a lot of places for <br />people to meet. It needs some more offices <br />to provide people to eat at those restaurants <br />you want to put in. <br /> You've got an opportunity to provide a lot <br />of the services that other places around <br />here don't provide. Why not think of <br />yourself as the provider of services for the <br />surrounding communities? You could fill <br />up an office building with lawyers and ac- <br />countants and travel services and so on. But <br />to attract an office building, you have to <br />help out with some sort of subsidy, or agree <br />to lease some of the space for five years or <br />so to remove some of the speculation. <br /> <br />The home folks <br />Dubnoff. I'm concerned that we seem to <br />be talking primarily about serving the re- <br />gion. Wouldn't it be of value to find out <br />what the people who live here might need <br />in the central area? There should be a con- <br />nection between the business opportunities <br />and the housing provided. Is the housing too <br />expensive for those who work here? Can the). <br />get child care? It seems to me you should be <br />looking at these things together. <br /> Ryan. It's a planning truism that good <br />plans come from good processes, and thars <br />what we're hearing now. But to have good <br />processes you've got to feed in good infor- <br />mation. You c.~n't just get people together <br />for coffee and talk about what you need. <br />What you have to do is bring in people like <br />Jay, who understand the economics of do- <br />ing.business in a place like this. <br /> And then, it seems to me, you should look <br />at the strip as a microcosm of the whole <br />city. There are special places on it and there <br />are also ordinary places. In a sense, the or- <br />dinary places are support areas, <br />background areas, and as such they're very <br />much needed. But not every place should <br />be a special place. Maybe what happens in <br />the in-between places on the strip should <br />simply be allowed to happen as long as <br />there's some sort of general framework for <br />considering circulation and linkages. <br /> <br />Ruth Knack is the senior editor of Planni~ <br /> <br /> <br />
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