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City Administrator Ulrich noted that there are contracted staff that are funded through building <br />permit revenue as well. <br />Community Development Director Gladhill stated that some charges were reduced to gain <br />compliance and the expenses to review and inspect the smaller permits are more than the fee <br />charges for the permit, with the expectation that additional compliance will be gained in return <br />for the lower permit fee. <br />Finance Director Lund stated that building permit fees do not strictly fund salary and reviewed <br />some of the other related expenses that are covered by the revenue source. <br />Councilmember Menth asked for clarification on the statement that some of the smaller permit <br />expenses are not covered by the permit fee. <br />Community Development Director Gladhill confirmed that to be true, noting that it was an <br />intentional change meant to gain compliance on items such as basement finishes and decks. He <br />noted that those can be dangerous situations if not completed correctly and therefore review is <br />important and therefore the fee was lowered slightly. <br />Councilmember Heinrich referenced the surplus amount and the comments of Councilmember <br />Riley. She stated that she also finds it concerning that there is such a large surplus. She stated <br />that perhaps the Council discuss what it is comfortable with compared to Councils of the past. <br />Councilmember Kuzma stated that his understanding it that the City estimates conservatively on <br />the permits as the number of permits that will be generated during a year is unknown. <br />Community Development Director Gladhill confirmed that it is difficult to forecast permit <br />revenue. He stated that the discussion has fixated on building permits but that is just one piece <br />of the surplus. <br />Councilmember Kuzma asked if staff is comfortable with the forecasted 2020 amounts. <br />Community Development Director Gladhill noted that additional revenue was forecasted in this <br />proposed budget compared to the 2019 budget. He stated that in his experience when he has <br />seen someone stretch too far in anticipated revenue, a slowdown often hits. He stated that they <br />may be seeing the end of a building cycle in the near future, where a slowdown will occur. <br />Mayor LeTourneau asked if the Council would rather give direction to staff to forecast a more <br />aggressive pace or stay at a conservative pace. <br />Councilmember Riley stated that he would not favor aggressive or conservative and would aim <br />for accuracy. He recognized that the guess will not be correct but would like the best estimate. <br />Councilmember Heinrich agreed that the guess should be the best guess. <br />City Council Special Work Session / September 3, 2019 <br />Page 5 of 17 <br />