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very nicely. She understands the reluctance to try the first one, but she thinks it should be utili×cd. (iouncihnember Jeffi'ey indicated the roundabout and the boulevard median would be good fcaturcs l'or the development as long as they are maintained. ]'he Council and staff discussed maneuverability for snow plow and emergency vehicles in relation to the cul-de-sac median. (iouncihncmber Cook stated he would like to have the cul-de-sac median looked at closer. Councilmember Elvig concurred. Assistant Public Works Director Olson explained these issues do not need to be determined at thc time of preliminary plat. Staff can work through the design and bring it back at final plat. tie indicated there are a couple of other issues to address. Based on past experiences with County officials, accesses onto County roads are eliminated as much as possible. The second conncction to Nowthen Boulevard may be an issue and could be turned into a cul-de-sac instead of second access. Councihnember Olson inquired about the distance between the two accesses onto Nowthen Boulevard. Assistant Public Works Director Olson replied the distance between the accesses would be approximatcly 1/8 mile. He indicated the last issue to discuss is the connection to 167th Avenue via Marble Street recommended by staff. He explained generally everyone in this subdivision will bc traveling south and east. There currently are a number of accesses, one to 167th Avenue, two to the existing neighborhood on the east, and two proposed on CR 5. The number of households expected to utilize the proposed access to 167th Avenue is approximately 260 vehicles. This would be close to 500 trips per day that would utilize the 167tnAvenue access, rather than past existing homeowners going south on 167th Avenue with the future realignment of 167~h Avcnue. The Planning Commission recornl'nended against including the access. Staff recommends including an outlot to allow for the access that would be released if the property to thc cast develops and provides an alternative connection. Councihncmber Strommen requested clarification that the idea is to preserve the outlot for the possibility of a future connection, and that there would not be a connection at the end of the Ovcrtooms' driveway if they do not redevelop their property. Assistant Pnblic Works Director Olson responded in the affirmative. Councihnember Elvig expressed concern with wrapping up this entire project, which has so many thcets to it, into another larger contingency of the east/west lateral, which is a much larger conversation for the City overall. He suggested this contingency be removed from this development, with action taken to keep the east/west lateral moving forward. City Council / September 13, 2005 Page 15 of 33