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Councilmember Howell replied she could see Councilmember Heineman's proposal as being <br /> beneficial. She felt this would fuse the business mindset with the governmental mindset. <br /> Mayor Pro Tem Riley asked if Councilmember Howell had a preference. <br /> Councilmember Howell replied she would like to see a relationship where Mr. Hagen was in a <br /> higher position, not equal to Mr. Korin. She stated she couldn't vote for Mr. Hagen because he <br /> isn't experienced enough. <br /> Mayor Pro Tem Riley suggested talking to Mr. Ulrich about being a consultant a day or two a <br /> week to help bridge the gap. <br /> Councilmember Howell replied she felt there was frustration during the past year and there are <br /> policy issues that haven't been brought forward under Mr. Ulrich. She thought bringing in <br /> someone different would shift the dynamic. <br /> Mayor Pro Tem Riley replied he didn't have that experience and understood wanting something <br /> different. He thought having Mr. Hagen move into leadership would be the change and Mr.Ulrich <br /> could offer the needed support. He asked if having someone come out of retirement for a <br /> consulting position was something that could be done. <br /> City Attorney Knaak replied it is done all the time. <br /> Administrative Services Director Lasher replied there are complications because a statement is <br /> signed after retirement that the employee will not return to work for the City within 30 days. <br /> Mayor Kuzma commented that by hiring another person they aren't showing trust in Mr. Hagen, <br /> which he sees as a problem with the Staff. Because of the tie in votes, he suggested going back <br /> through the hiring process and hiring a consulting firm to get a bigger applicant pool. <br /> Councilmember Heineman commented that is an option but added the reason he suggested <br /> bringing in Mr. Korin as a consultant without authority over anyone was because of his unique <br /> experience as a business owner and former City Administrator experience. He supported going <br /> back through the hiring process or hire Mr. Hagen as the sole City Administrator with the caveat <br /> that Mr. Korin could come in part-time to be an asset. He felt if the Council was going to hire <br /> someone who isn't fully qualified it would require that they provide support for them to be <br /> successful. <br /> Mayor Pro Tem Riley asked because of the tie in votes, if this was a viable option for the Council <br /> to move forward with. <br /> Councilmember Musgrove stated the Council hasn't been as involved with Mr. Hagen and had <br /> concerns about communication style. She expressed concerns about the working relationship <br /> between Mr. Hagen and Mr. Korin. <br /> Mayor Pro Tem Riley replied to her questions about communication with Mr. Hagen and gave a <br /> recent example where he demonstrated good communication. <br /> City Council Special Work Session/May 5, 2022 <br /> Page 4 of 7 <br />