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Councilmember Woestehoff asked staff to provide input on the improvements for 161 St. He noted <br />that the Public Works Committee recently discussed the potential project and trail. <br />City Engineer Westby commented that typically a road would be reconstructed to the same <br />conditions unless another need comes forward. He stated that staff has concern with p.m. pick-up <br />from parents and therefore they could potentially provide queuing on the street, but they would <br />want to ensure that is not used for parking during the other hours. He stated that generally they <br />would reconstruct the road without parking on either side and then an off -road trail for pedestrians. <br />He stated that it would be hard to plan for a queuing lane when they are not aware of where vehicles <br />would be coming from for parent pick-up. <br />Councilmember Woestehoff stated that his hope was to show residents that the City is looking at <br />161st as part of this project and there will be changes made. He noted that the trail/sidewalk is a <br />big project and recognized the tree loss concerns. He stated that they are attempting to reduce the <br />tree loss to the extent possible. <br />Commissioner Anderson asked why there could not be a right -in or right -out for buses off <br />Variolite. <br />City Engineer Westby stated that the sight distances are not good on Variolite because of the crest <br />and curve, therefore staff has concern with the sight distances and related safety concerns for a <br />head on collision of vehicles attempting to pass buses turning right into that access. <br />Commissioner Anderson asked if those concerns would equally apply to that access being an exit <br />only. <br />City Engineer Westby confirmed that his concerns would remain as a vehicle could attempt to pass <br />a bus entering the road from the site and could have a head on collision with vehicles coming from <br />the other direction. He also had concern with a bus being able to come up to speed going up the <br />hill towards 161st <br />Commissioner Hunt asked if the sight distance are based off current speeds or school zone speed <br />limits. <br />City Engineer Westby replied that they could look to enact a school zone speed limit on the road, <br />noting that is an MSA road and therefore MnDOT would need to be involved as there are additional <br />requirements MnDOT would have to enact a school zone. He noted that his comments were based <br />on the existing speed of the road. He stated that he understands the concern with drainage and the <br />visibility of high water levels in the ditches after rain events but explained that those ditches are <br />meant to fill up and hold water until it can be released downstream. He explained that just because <br />a ditch is filled does not mean it is not functioning as it should be. He stated that the drainage <br />design submitted by the applicant is reviewed diligently by staff as well as the LRRWMO <br />engineering staff to ensure proper design. He stated that the City ensures that all developers are <br />held to the standards for the two-, ten- and 100-year events noting that post development has to <br />Planning Commission/ June 23, 2022 <br />Page 13 of 19 <br />
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