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Commissioner Cleveland asked if there are currently homes on this property that have access to a <br />dirt road to Erkium Street. <br /> <br />Fire Chief Kapler stated that there is, and that there is no hydrant in the area. <br />Commissioner Van Scoy noted that there have been a lot of comments on the road there, and the <br />sharp turn it takes. <br /> <br />Fire Chief Kapler stated that Public Works drivers have voiced a concern about the hill in the <br />winter time. He noted there would definitely be an increase in traffic and traffic back-up here. <br />He indicated that fi:om a safety concern, that is not the major issue. <br /> <br />Commissioner Van Scoy asked what would make this development workable. <br /> <br />Fire Chief KaPler stated that the connection of 177~ would be' a big plus. He indicated that <br />shortening of the cul-de-sac is also important. <br /> <br />Commissioner Brauer noted that the City has had other cul-de-sacs that go beyond the <br />established lengths. He asked if it was the Fire Chief's feeling that the Planning Commission <br />should keep them within the established length. <br /> <br />Fire Chief Kapler indicated that with the cluster ordinance they might have a problem with <br />troubled properties that are hard to get to develop. He stated that he would recommend denying <br />this from a public safety standpoint. <br /> <br />Publi~ Input <br /> <br />Commission Input <br /> <br />Vice Chairperson Johnson opened the public hearing at 7:35 p.m. <br />Tom Adriaens, 17680 Argon Street, stated he is in the eastern part of the neighborhood. He <br />indicated there are a lot of concerns. He indicated that when they heard it would be 16 lots on 40 <br />acres they did not like it, but knew they could not stop it. He stated what they did not know was <br />that with the cluster ordinance they would be small lots of one-quarter acre, with a community <br />septic system. <br /> <br />Mr. Adrians stated that he thinks Ramsey is moving too quick. He indicated that cluster <br />developments are not working in other cities. He stated Ramsey is doing a big study in 2008, <br />and asked why there is a hun~ to approve this now. He indicated there are a lot of trees and <br />swamps that will be rearranged, and the curve on the road is a real problem. He stated there is <br />already too much traffic for that intersection to handle. He indicated that from what he is reading <br />the plan is to put another 35 homes out there later. He stated that he has concerns about that, and <br />the Commission can tell from the turn out that others do too. He indicated he was sad to hear <br /> <br />Planning CommissionflVlarch 2, 2006 <br /> Page 6 of 31 <br /> <br /> <br />