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Ms. Johnson commented that she would imagine that a lot of people that would become legal <br />nonconforming were not aware of this proposed change that would impact the ownership of their <br />home. <br />Acting Chairperson Bauer commented that it would not seem to limit the number of related <br />individuals that can live in a home and asked the number of unrelated individuals that could live <br />in the home with that family. <br />Planning Manager Larson replied that if there is a married couple with three kids, they could have <br />three unrelated individuals in the home as well. He stated that if there was the described family of <br />five and one of the adults had their sister and her family living in the home, that would still equal <br />one family as they would be all be related and therefore in that scenario, they could still have three <br />unrelated individuals. <br />Commissioner Van Scoy asked if there is a reason four unrelated people was chosen versus six <br />people. <br />Planning Manager Larson replied that four is a common number and there have been court <br />decisions that four is the smallest number that could be regulated. He noted that the Commission <br />could choose a larger number. <br />Motion by Commissioner Peters, seconded by Commissioner Van Scoy, to close the public <br />hearing. <br />Motion Carried. Voting Yes: Acting Chairperson Bauer, Commissioners Peters, Van Scoy, <br />Anderson, Heineman, and Hunt. Voting No: None. Absent: Chairperson Gengler. <br />Acting Chairperson Bauer closed the public hearing at 9:18 p.m. <br />Commission Business <br />Acting Chairperson Bauer recognized the discussion that arose around the definition of family and <br />number of unrelated individuals, along with the use of EIFS. <br />Councilmember Heineman stated that he would want to bring the issue of the auto dealerships to <br />the attention of the Council, noting that he would not necessarily recommend a change at this time. <br />He commented that the businesses may be considered an eyesore, but they have existed in Ramsey <br />for many years and invested in those businesses. He stated that the City would essentially slowly <br />be choking out those businesses and if that is the desire the City should have a stronger stance. He <br />commented that it seems misleading to say the businesses are okay right now when over time they <br />will be choked out. <br />Commissioner Hunt asked the number of businesses that would fall under the category where <br />licenses could be transferred versus those with multiple licenses that would dwindle away. <br />Planning Commission/ July 27, 2023 <br />Page 14 of 18 <br />