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City Planner Martin replied that having guidance on the definitions and applicability would be <br />helpful. He stated that for COR-4, Greenway Terrace is purely residential and some of the other <br />developments do not have wall signage because they are attached or detached townhomes. He <br />stated that the Norhart building is mixed use and would intend to have signage for the retailers. <br />He noted that Norhart was approved with a sign package, but these changes would assist in <br />streamlining for future projects. <br />Planning Manager Larson explained that the current standards do not have anything for an <br />apartment building in the R-3. He clarified that there can be different standards for residential and <br />business uses within the same zoning district. <br />Councilmember Woestehoff referenced awnings and asked if those are considered signage. <br />City Planner Martin replied that awnings are considered their own sign category and will be part <br />of a future discussion. <br />Chairperson Gengler asked if awnings count towards the sign percentages. <br />City Planner Martin did not believe so. <br />Senior Planner Anderson stated that within the business districts, awning signage would be <br />included in wall signage. He was unsure if awnings were counted the same in The COR. <br />Commissioner Heineman asked if the Commission could empower staff to attack the challenges <br />and recommended that path of action as staff would have the most knowledge on this topic and <br />how to best address those matters. <br />Commissioner Peters agreed. <br />Commissioner VanScoy also agreed that support and direction from staff would be helpful. <br />Councilmember Woestehoff noted the comment that signs may be approved as a package but may <br />be permitted individually. He asked for input on the preferred method for staff and developers. <br />Planning Manager Larson commented that the sign permit is a subset of the building permit and <br />therefore deals more with structural integrity, whereas zoning deals more with size and aesthetic. <br />Chairperson Gengler stated that there seems to be regulation on size, placement and channel set <br />but does not see much on digital versus solid state. <br />City Planner Martin replied that many peer cities have specific language on electronic message <br />centers, or digital changing signs, and is something staff can look into. He stated that there are a <br />few locations that use those as wall signage. <br />Planning Manager Larson asked for input from the Commission on that type of signage. <br />Planning Commission/ October 24, 2024 <br />Page 12 of 14 <br />