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Commissioner Ebel stated we need a strong CEO manager type. She stated she has watched the <br />City Council meetings and knows of some of Ramsey' s history and that causes her to be <br />concerned. She wanted to make sure Ramsey gets the best person for this job. She referred to <br />page 51 — E. Effective council relations — it states it is important that the working relationship be <br />a good one. Both must keep in mind they are working as a team to serve the community. <br />Commissioner Deemer stated we are just dealing with "thoughts of change" of City Manager <br />versus City Administrator. It's totally up to the City Council - they should not be a part of our <br />key thought process. Our deal is "would it be better for our City to have a manager versus an <br />administrator ". <br />Commissioner Simenson stated that the thought process is this would protect staff and staff <br />would do a better job for the City. The City Council is responsible but, in the end, potentially <br />this could be better for employees and they do a better job. <br />Commissioner Fischer stated we as residents have a responsibility of voting on City Council. <br />Commissioner Deemer suggested having Mr. Norman make this presentation to us — he has to <br />know what a manager should be doing - the agenda should be different. We would see the <br />differences in black and white. <br />Commissioner Vogt stated we do not know how long this will take. We could say we want to be <br />done with this in 18 months or so. We need to give the City Council time to look at this piece. <br />If we want to take this on, it would be good to bring in people who do that role. Have Jim <br />Norman come in and take time to have discussions — have the Council come in. <br />Commissioner Ebel stated she comes from a City that has a City Manager and it works. She <br />added that she asked Mr. Norman if as a City Manager versus an Administrator would the salary <br />increase. He reported it would be a slight increase if any. <br />Ms. Retzer stated that the Minnesota salary surveys are available for review. <br />Motion by Commissioner Simenson and seconded by Commissioner Frederick to invite Bob <br />Kirchner from the City of Anoka to our next meeting and make this the first item on the agenda. <br />Motion carried. Voting Yes: Chair Vogt, Commissioners Simenson, Frederick Bertzyk, <br />Deemer, Ebel, Fischer and LaMere. Voting No: None. Absent: Commissioner Swanson. <br />Case #6: Plan for Training Budget Dollars Requested <br />Motion by Commissioner Bertzyk and seconded by Commissioner Ebel to ask for a $750 budget <br />line item for the Charter Commission. <br />Charter Commission — January 20, 2005 <br />Page 5 of 6 <br />