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Assistant Public Works Director Olson indicated if the developer is willing to take on the <br />• maintenance responsibilities, at least the entrance median and the roundabout would be <br />workable. <br />Councilmember Olson stated she has had experience using roundabouts in other parts of the <br />country where they get heavy snowfall, and the flow of traffic around a roundabout is handled <br />very nicely. She understands the reluctance to try the first one, but she thinks it should be <br />utilized. <br />Councilmember Jeffrey indicated the roundabout and the boulevard median would be good <br />features for the development as long as they are maintained. <br />The Council and staff discussed maneuverability for snow plow and emergency vehicles in <br />relation to the cul -de -sac median. <br />Councilmember Cook stated he would like to have the cul -de -sac median looked at closer. <br />Councilmember Elvig concurred. <br />Assistant Public Works Director Olson explained these issues do not need to be determined at <br />the time of preliminary plat. Staff can work through the design and bring it back at final plat. <br />He indicated there are a couple of other issues to address. Based on past experiences with <br />County officials, accesses onto County roads are eliminated as much as possible. The second <br />• connection to Nowthen Boulevard may be an issue and could be turned into a cul -de -sac instead <br />of second access. <br />Councilmember Olson inquired about the distance between the two accesses onto Nowthen <br />Boulevard. <br />Assistant Public Works Director Olson replied the distance between the accesses would be <br />approximately 1/8 mile. He indicated the last issue to discuss is the connection to 167 Avenue <br />via Marble Street recommended by staff. He explained generally everyone in this subdivision <br />will be traveling south and east. There currently are a number of accesses, one to 167' Avenue, <br />two to the existing neighborhood on the east, and two proposed on CR 5. The number of <br />households expected to utilize the proposed access to 167' Avenue is approximately 260 <br />vehicles. This would be close to 500 trips per day that would utilize the 167 Avenue access, <br />rather than past existing homeowners going south on 167 Avenue with the future realignment <br />of 167 Avenue. The Planning Commission recommended against including the access. Staff <br />recommends including an outlot to allow for the access that would be released if the property to <br />the east develops and provides an alternative connection. <br />Councilmember Strommen requested clarification that the idea is to preserve the outlot for the <br />possibility of a future connection, and that there would not be a connection at the end of the <br />Overtooms' driveway if they do not redevelop their property. <br />• Assistant Public Works Director Olson responded in the affirmative. <br />City Council / September 13, 2005 <br />Page 15 of 33 <br />—91— <br />