Minutes - Planning Commission - 08/02/2007

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Commissioner Brauer stated the only comment he had was the restriction on the number of signs on a residential lot. He was specifically thinking of political campaign signs and he was not sure that two signs will be enough. Associate Planner DaInes stated they can review how many signs will be permitted. She noted if they allow more than two signs, it would have to be any type of signs, not just political. She stated political signs have special protection by State Statute. She stated if State Statute does not address the number of signs, then they could adjust this in the wording. The Commission discussed with staff the wording that can be used in the ordinance for political signs and non verbal signs. Commissioner Trites Rolle stated on page 123, under Subdivision 1, for permits required, she wondered if it should be subsection 9.12.17, and Associate Planner DaInes indicated it should. Commissioner Trites Rolle asked on page 127, section 9.12.25, if it was the four after the amended five to be removed or was one of those not intended to be there. Associate Planner DaInes indicated she would check on this. Commissioner Trites Rolle asked for clarification on the off-premise sign definition. She thought the way it was worded was a little confusing. She thought it should be worded to say "A commercial speech sign which directs the public attention to a business activity or product sold or offered and the sign location is not on the premises where such business is located." Chairperson Nixt thought what was missing is that the string is not continued. The phrase where it says "Not on the same premises where such a business is located" should read "such a business, activity conducted or product sold or offered is located". He wanted to know if they were sure they wanted to limit this to commercial speech. Associate Planner DaInes stated the issue is they have to define it as commercial speech in order for this ordinance to work without completely redoing the way they enforce signs. Commissioner Van Scoy wondered why they are eliminating service bay or fuel island pump identification signs. Associate Planner DaInes stated they could look at that again to make sure this is covered elsewhere. She thought it is listed under wall signage usage and was not sure why it should be separate. She indicated this is this is a content based identification and should be treated as wall SIgns. Associate Planner DaInes reviewed with the Commission some of the items taken out of regulations. Citizen Input Planning Commission/August 2, 2007 Page 14 of 16