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Further discussion: Mr. Schroeder noted that this is not budgeted as a 1995-1996 project <br />and he would not want to see it started until late in the year. <br /> <br />Motion carried. Voting Yes: Councilmembers Beahen and Zimmerman. Voting No: <br />None. <br /> <br />Case #2: Traffic on 171st Avenue N.W. <br /> <br />City Engineer Jankowski stated that at the March 28, 1995 Council meeting, a request for <br />the closure of 171st Avenue between Bison Street and Zeolite Street was denied by the City <br />Council. However, it was recommended that the Road and Bridge Committee look at some <br />type of traffic control along this segment of roadway. He reported that the 1993 traffic <br />count for this approximate 450 foot long segment of roadway was 85 vehicles per day. <br /> <br />Tim Dusbabek, 7821 - 171st Avenue N.W.. Ramsey, stated that the situation on Bison <br />Street is an on-going, long-term, festering situation. We have traffic from developments <br />using our neighborhood to go south. It's important for the record to state that the 85 cars <br />are on Variolite, the traffic counts are up on 171st. Eighty-five cars is not accurate. <br />There's been rhetoric assessed over the years of charging for grading roads. It has not <br />taken place. He continued that it was brought up by a petition for having 171st closed off. <br />Our house is the only one that fronts the road - we had at least 50 percent of the necessary <br />signatures. I submitted it hoping Council would deal with 171st alone - not as a catalyst <br />for Bison Street N.W. He stated he believes that Mr. Jankowski is one to stick to his <br />theory and that he (Dusbabek) is here again through discussions with Councilmember <br />Zimmerman and his urgings. <br /> <br />Councilmember Zimmerman inquired of Mr. Dusbabek if the closing of 171st didn't <br />happen, what would be the next best thing. <br /> <br />Mr. Dusbabek distributed a copy of his suggested options to traffic cutting through Golden <br />Eagle Estates. He added they are in order of priority and effectiveness and are as follows: <br />1) Connect Bison Street with Trott Brook Ridge as platted as a dirt road; 2) Temporarily <br />close off 171 st Avenue at Bison Street until Bison Street connects with Trott Brook Ridge; <br />3) Permanently close off 171st at Bison Street with Bison Street terminating into a cul-de- <br />sac. (Option to connect Bison Street to Trott Brook Ridge and 171st to Bison Street with <br />bike paths large enough to allow emergency vehicles if ever required); and 4) Three-way <br />stop sign at 171st Avenue and Zeolite Street with two speed bumps between Zeolite <br />Avenue and Bison Street along 171st Avenue (Problem may not be corrected if speed <br />bumps and stop signs do not deter traffic or slow it down along Zeolite to 168th Avenue to <br />Variolite). He noted that the property owner along 171st Avenue would be willing to help <br />with cost of paving Bison Street if paved a through street or if 171st remains closed if <br />Bison Street remains closed. Mr. Dusbabek reminded the Commission that he has always <br />been flexible and that the opinion and direction from the people on Bison is that they do not <br />want "zip". Mr. Dusbabek stated "I feel you are just hoping we go away". <br /> <br />Councilmember Zimmerman stated that while he was on the Planning Commission, part of <br />the criteria for approval to Dellwood Hills was that they would use Bison Street and have it <br />tarred. Now Dellwood Hills is developed and they have paved streets. Trott Brook Ridge <br />is scheduled to be hooked up - they have cul-de-sac'd it there. <br /> <br />Mr. Dusbabek commented that usually when you have a new development taking place, <br />there's some advantage to each. No one uses 171st except the people on Bison. He made <br />mention about the quality of life here and being frustrated. He personally feels they have <br />been treated differently. He informed the Committee that he has asked Mr. Jankowski <br /> <br />Road and Bridge Committee/April 11, 1995 <br /> Page 3 of 4 <br /> <br /> <br />
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