Minutes - Council Work Session - 10/21/2008

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that there is always the opportunity at the public hearing to change the parameters and noted that the last property owner meeting was in July, so the residents are not aware ofthis information. Councilmember Dehen stated that he recalls that the City told property owners that their assessment on this project, if it was improved, excluding the sidewalk, was not to be greater than what they would pay if it was an overlay. Public Works Director Olson stated that he thinks that project was counter petitioned. Councilmember Elvig stated that it was the assumption on their request and their petition. City Administrator Ulrich stated that the fall back position is that an overlay would then just be done if the residents reject this study. Councilmember Dehen stated that this jumps their costs from around $1,300 to $6,000, which will be a tough sell. Councilmember Look stated that in looking at this project and if the backup plan is an overlay, the City will still have a 5 ton road that trucks use on a regular basis to avoid the weigh station, it wouldn't have a sidewalk and would probably have curb problems. He stated that with an overlay, there is still an MSA road that is not meeting ton requirements. He stated that he sees the plans presented as a Cadillac plan and wonders what the cost would be to improve the road to 9 ton at current width, without sidewalk and striping, but with concrete curb. Councilmember Elvig asked if that would pass MSA standards. Councilmember Look asked what the contractors have said about their recommendations for overlays. He stated that he thought they said they would love to do an overlay because they would be back to do a fix soon because of how the road has degraded. City Engineer Jankowski stated that they have performed overlays on similar streets with pretty good results. Councilmember Dehen stated that it does change the curb height. City Engineer Jankowski agreed that you do just about lose the curb because with an overlay you raise up the surface. Councilmember Elvig asked if the City should build the road to a higher standard and not assess people. Councilmember Look stated that item 3 on the tonight's agenda is the MSA Assessment Policy. Public'Works Director Olson stated that staff is trying to get its arms around this feasibility study because what was proposed for the neighborhood was a lot more than the City was assessing for. He stated that the City has had good success in overlay projects to extend the life of roads. He stated that the Council can move to the next case before a decision is made on this item. City Council Work Session / October 21,2008 Page 6 of 11