Minutes - Council - 11/18/2008 - Special

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Police Chief Way stated that the whole issue with the alcohol and tobacco compliance are they want them to ask those questions, but in this case, he would question if they ask everyone when they come in if they are with the Police Department. He stated that this raises red flags for him. Mr. Sliderman stated that he wants to renew his objection that this shows entrapment and he doesn't want to say anything more at this juncture but to renew his motion to continue. He stated that he feels this is reminiscent of battlefield justice, and not appropriate to Minnesota law. Councilmember Olson asked that when Officer Katers went to look for the drill if it was on metal shelving in the back of business area. Officer Katers stated that this is correct and this is where pawned items are normally found. Councilmember Dehen accepted Exhibit 4. City Attorney Goodrich called Officer Moldenhauer to the witness stand. Councilmember Dehen swore Officer Moldenhauer in. Officer Moldenhauer stated that he is employed by the Ramsey Police Department, currently as a police officer, licensed by the State. He has been employed for 6 months as an officer, and also did a temporary turn in September 2006 to February 2007 as an officer. He stated that after this turn he went back to being a Community Service Officer. City Attorney Goodrich confirmed that Officer Moldenhauer was a CSO when he was asked to sell the drill to the pawnshop. He asked Officer Moldenhauer to explain the situation from that day. Officer Moldenhauer stated that he was asked to go to the pawnshop to try to pawn the item off and see how much he could get for it. He stated that he changed into plain clothes to take the drill to the pawnshop. He stated that it was a red and gray drill with a chord, a construction type drill. He stated that he went in his personal vehicle to the pawnshop, in the afternoon. He stated that he went in and asked the gentleman behind the counter how much he could get for the drill and he said "I am not supposed to be taking transactions, you will have to check with my boss." He stated that when he walked outside, he saw somebody driving up that was Mr. Jerdin, and asked him how much he could get for the drill. He stated that Mr. Jerdin asked if he was with the police and that he was not supposed to be wheeling and dealing. He stated that Mr. Jerdin gave him $10 for the drill. City Attorney Goodrich asked Officer Moldenhauer if the person who gave him $10 for the drill was present tonight. Offic~r Moldenhauer identified Mr. Jerdin as the person who gave him the money. He stated that he returned to the Police Department and told Officer Katers what had happened and completed a supplemental report. Special City Council Meeting / November 18, 2008 Page 13 of 19