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URS was not a part of this. If you select Kimley Horn, how much more will it cost to <br />include that. How was Council supposed to make a decision that evening when it was <br />not coming together. <br />Mayor Ramsey stated that because of the $80,000, we already have a park plan so why <br />reinvent the wheel. That's the reason he voted to postpone it — he thought maybe for <br />$20,000 we could get out what we had. <br />City Administrator Ulrich stated that when we look at consulting, we requested Landform <br />give us a number to integrate a bonding request. If we went through a different company, <br />what would Landform charge us to go through that plan - it will cost something to <br />integrate. <br />Mayor Ramsey stated that no matter what plan we use, we can integrate Landform in. <br />Mr. Olson stated that Mr. Lazan has indicated Landform would do it on an hourly basis <br />for no more than $15,000. That's $80,000 for Kimley Horn, $15,000 for Landform — <br />how much of that $80,000 was for design development. <br />Mr Himmer stated that Kimley Horn designed the development for about $32,000 and <br />construction documents were about $45,000. <br />Mr. Olson stated that he was hearing things from water fountains to the minimum of just <br />putting in the amphitheater. He stated that if Council is telling staff that what they want <br />is what we have originally planned, he is fine with that and that Council wants to <br />integrate the water conservation issue with Landform. <br />Councilmember Dehen inquired if Landform is the only one that does that water <br />circulation and was concerned because he did not know what the cost would be. <br />Mr. Ulrich stated that part of the capital bonding request would be an evaluation and <br />feasibility study to see if this would be a good plan for the Town Center. That would be <br />developed as a bonding request money. We will have water — we will have to have a <br />recirculation plan — we can get that from Landform. <br />Mayor Ramsey stated we all want the Fountains of the Bilogio but realistically we will <br />not get that. He thought we needed to figure out how to phase it in. <br />Discussion ensued relating to the water plan/concept. <br />Presentations were received from HKGi, Kimley Horn, and Landform. <br />Councilmember Elvig arrived back at the meeting at 9:12 p.m. <br />Darren Lazan, Landform, stated that staff feels that Kimley Horn is probably the best <br />deal. He put together an hourly proposal to coordinate the water part with another group. <br />City Council Work Session — September 29, 2009 <br />Page 7 of 11 <br />