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LRRWMO Meeting Minutes ~~ July 20, 1995 Page 11 Haas asked if the DNR or governmental agency (Ramsey) contacts adjacent property owners. Jankowski stated he does not know. It was noted an NPDES permit is required because it disturbs more than five acres. Jankowski stated if it is the consensus of the LRRWMO, he will get a permit and send the materials he used for the DNR permit to the WMO engineer, but questioned what the WMO engineer will find that is different than what the DNR engineer has already found. Weaver stated he is amazed Ramsey did not bring this matter before the LRRWMO long ago to avoid this embarrassing situation, especially since the project obviously is within a wetland. Jankowski stated the rules do not clearly state when you need to get a permit. Ferguson asked if, in the past, the LRRWMO has required permits for dewatering projects within DNR wetlands. He noted the DNR is only requesting comment on the dewatering operation, not on disturbance of the wetland. Haas advised that Andover applied for a LRRWMO permit for their bridge crossing project even though the WCA was not in place. They did so because of the water quality issue which is a very important part of the LRRWMO. Ferguson asked if there have been projects where the LRRWMO did not require a permit. Weaver suggested the LRRWMO attorney and consulting engineer be asked. Ferguson stated if this is the LRRWMO responsibility, then they should require a permit. However, the LRRWMO has also been concerned about having too many overlapping jurisdictions involved. Jankowski apologized this permit was addressed in this manner, but he felt if oversight is being controlled by a qualified agency, why would the LRRWMO want to interfere. Ferguson noted the Coon Rapids control structure project by Riverdale was a Corp. project, but the LRRWMO differed on that issue. Jankowski stated to satisfy everyone, he will make application and submit materials to the WMO engineer for review but is unsure what the WMO engineer will come up with that is different than found by the DNR. Weaver asked if comment can wait until the next meeting (August 17, 1995). Jankowski stated they want to begin dewatering by August 1st and it will probably take more than one week for construction to begin. He requested indulgence to start the process. Weaver asked if Ramsey would not be opening themselves to litigation if they allow the project to start and then need to stop work. Schultz noted as far as the LRRWMO is concerned, Ramsey has received approval from the DNR for dewatering and if the LRRWMO does not answer the DNR request for comment,