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Assistant Public Works Director Olson replied that they were not planning on taking any additional right of way within the area, but that is something they could look at before they move forward with the design of the project. Mr. Walbo stated that he thought that a lot of the neighborhood would probably like to see the paved road if the costs could be reduced somewhat for the residents who have been living there for 25 years. Betty Pehlke, 5566 - 152nd Avenue NW, Ramsey, stated that she was very much in favor of the City constructing a cul-de-sac rather than a through street because she was very concerned about creating additional traffic, especially since the road goes directly towards the school. She stated that the Council has indicated that the cul-de-sac was not feasible because of fire concerns, but she questioned how long the fire trucks were. Mayor Gamec explained that the cul-de-sacs provide a great deal of difficulty for fire trucks to turn around. He noted that the recommendation came from the City's safety department, not the City Council. Ms. Pehlke stated that every week they have garbage trucks and recycling trucks that are over 30 feet long that have no problem getting in or out of their street. Another concern with extending the road is that it will create more potential for crime because there will be another way out of the neighborhood. With a cul-de-sac there is only one way in and one way out. She was not opposed to City sewer and water, but she was strongly opposed to the road going through. Ms. Pehlke also noted that there would be drainage pipes that would go across their septic system, which would also be a concern. Mayor Gamec replied that the pipes going across the septic system are issues that the City would have to work with individual property owners on. The property owner would not be liable for those types of issues. Assistant Public Works Director Olson noted that he could come out to the property and look at the situation. Ms. Pehlke noted that the feasibility study gave a value on trees that are four inches, but there are no four-inch trees in the area, they are all much larger than that. Mayor Gamec stated that was only an estimate. That would be an issue that would have to be negotiated. Bob Hartman, 5475 - 151st Avenue NW, Ramsey, inquired if all the land is developed or will they be paying for undeveloped land. Mayor Gamec explained that each property owner would be paying for his or her own individual lot. City Council/August 12, 2003 Page 10 of 30