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PUDs in shoreline areas, transfer development rights, and how to entice developers to choose <br /> cluster development. <br /> Councilmember Backous agreed with concerns relating to property rights but indicated he likes <br /> to hear all viewpoints and information. He felt the Council cannot make good decision without it <br /> and was willing to let experts advise the Council, noting the Council always states rationale for <br /> its decisions. <br /> Mayor Ramsey felt the issue with density credits is that no one takes into consideration the <br /> resident's reason for moving to Ramsey, large lot development. He did not think residents <br /> would support cluster development and he would argue the fact that a smaller lot will not bring <br /> more money than a larger lot. <br /> Councilmember Strommen noted she moved to a smaller lot than she had in Ostego and asked <br /> why the Council approved an apartment building if all residents want a large lot. <br /> Mayor Ramsey explained development is being done to put density here so residents can still <br /> have their Large lots. He noted that making the Hunt property preserve 30% for open space is not <br /> consistent with what is in outer Ramsey. <br /> Councilmember Strommen stated she hopes someone will move here to live in an apartment. <br /> Councilmember Elvig stated this is the "backbone" for the entire development of the City and <br /> the Council is now on board with growth. He noted the Comprehensive Plan anticipates areas of <br /> growth with different density and he has seen, many times, where density is put in several areas <br /> with large green space that could never have been afforded otherwise. He felt having more tools <br /> was a benefit but the Council will decide whether to move forward with any of the <br /> recommendations. <br /> Ms. Coleman explained that Rice County was dealing with "4 in 40" and the benefit was to get <br /> an additional two units. <br /> Mayor Ramsey commented that when you create that green space, people want it to be a park. <br /> However, with large lot development, people recreate on their own property and there is no need <br /> fora park. <br /> Councilmember Elvig pointed out there is an evolution with parks because he had created a <br /> "park" on his own land but then trails opened so now his kids can get to parks to play with others <br /> on those fields. <br /> Mayor Ramsey stated while he was reluctant to support this request, if it is simply to compile <br /> data and use the EPB, not staff time, he would not put up a fuss. <br /> Councilmember Tossey stated before he would consider this request he wants to see what <br /> students have done with other government entities. He remained very cautious and concerned. <br /> City Council Work Session / October 18, 2011 <br /> Page 4 of 11 <br />