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Councilmember McGlone pointed out that everything is an evolution, noting when Ramsey was <br /> more of a rural developing community, tot lots made more sense because there were no trails, <br /> and fewer roadways. However, today, the City is looking at a plan for five major parks and <br /> closing other parks. He stated the Council is highly focused on property rights and that is <br /> supported by the electorate as well. Councilmember McGlone noted his ward is the most rural <br /> part of Ramsey and his constituents do not support townhomes. He felt if the U of M is allowed <br /> to make recommendations there may be a credibility issue for the Council and he remains <br /> nervous about that. <br /> City Administrator Ulrich stated the community's values have to be reflected in the work of the <br /> students. He indicated he was unsure whether the program plan included enough direction and <br /> felt it should be in writing so there will be no surprises. <br /> Mayor Ramsey suggested staff prepare a scope for Council's consideration at the next meeting. <br /> Councilmember Wise requested a sampling of student's work with other governmental entities. <br /> Ms. Coleman stated she would be happy to provide that information and to craft proposed <br /> boundaries to help the Council in its decision. <br /> Councilmember Strommen stated she is more interested in boundaries for this project since <br /> providing examples from other municipalities may not relate to what we want in Ramsey. She <br /> cautioned the Council that examples can "color our minds" as well as provide more definition <br /> but she is more interested in focus on this project. <br /> Mayor Ramsey noted the first statement in the Comprehensive Plan addresses balancing <br /> environmental issues with property rights. <br /> Senior Planner Gladhill assured the Council that staff will filter that and assure the students do <br /> not bring something forward that staff knows the Council would not support. <br /> Deputy City Administrator Nelson explained when this opportunity was presented, the <br /> conversation was to make sure students understand from where we operate, that private property <br /> rights prevail. Staff wanted to be sure that was a framework students could work within. <br /> Otherwise, it was not a conversation worth having. Deputy City Administrator Nelson felt if <br /> students can do that, then there is value in working with them. <br /> City Administrator Ulrich stated students can also address how to encourage development. He <br /> raised examples relating to the cost effectiveness of allowing a temporary septic system rather <br /> than extending sewer lines, more open water ponds, or encouraging geothermal or solar by <br /> providing incentive in some way for projects that give the City what it wants. City <br /> Administrator Ulrich suggested emphasizing those two principles: private property rights and <br /> encouraging development. <br /> Councilmember Strommen noted the Council had spent a lot of time and public involvement in <br /> crafting vision and value statements. However, the Council should not forget that environmental <br /> City Council Work Session / October 18, 2011 <br /> Page 5of11 <br />