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City Engineer Himmer stated that is the standard and he has seen no other communities require <br />less. <br />Councilmember Elvig stated people are excited about getting the dirt roads paved and the City is <br />trying to get it done as affordable as possible. <br />Chairperson McGlone asked how many miles are left. <br />Public Works Director Olson responded just under three miles. <br />Chairperson McGlone noted if it is just three miles, it may not be a big issue to a lot of people. <br />He believed sod would solve a lot of problems and agreed a picture can be taken when the <br />project is done to show whether turf has been established. Chairperson McGlone stated he can <br />understand why the contractor would not want to be responsible to replace salt damaged sod <br />because the contractor did not cause it. <br />City Engineer Himmer commented on the importance of communication with residents to <br />provide adequate notification of the project and to care for the sod when it goes in because it is <br />an investment in their property. <br />Public Works Director Olson requested input on the specification for areas with ditches, noting <br />that 65% sand can be allowed but the whole point is to absorb water and decrease the amount of <br />irrigation that is necessary. <br />City Engineer Himmer explained that 10-17% sand is allowed in borrow and 25-60% sand is <br />allowed in premium. <br />Councilmember Backous stated he understands the spirit of the topsoil requirement is to better <br />retain water and not have to irrigate but the City should be required to do whatever it requires of <br />others. <br />Public Works Director Olson noted the boulevard would have to sodded but not the front and <br />back yards. <br />Chairperson McGlone stated the City may not want sod for the ditch areas. <br />Public Works Director Olson noted the ditches can be people's front yards and if that's the case, <br />it may be more complicated to use two soil types. <br />City Engineer Himmer explained that with Chameleon Street, there were ditch sections and some <br />residents mow it. <br />Councilmember Backous stated he did not support having a separate standard for the City. <br />Councilmember Wise stated he believed a specification for 4 inches of topsoil is overkill and the <br />Council wants to make Ramsey more affordable for development. <br />Public Works Committee / November 15, 2011 <br />Page 6 of 15 <br />