Minutes - Council - 04/17/1989 - Joint with Anoka CC and Development Committee

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Hartley viewed the consensus of those present that alternatives be considered on Highway 47. Because the same engineering firm is being used by both cities, they should be asked to draw sketches for low cost ideas which will meet transportation standards. These options will be brought back to this same group of individuals at a later date for their consideration. Kirchner pointed out that the Anoka Planning Commission expressed the concern that another line not be drawn through the Anoka Industrial Park which woold inhibit further development in the park. Banwart addressed the next item of discussion, MSA transportation coordination. He noted that Anoka is anticipating using the Rum River bridge crossing for a major hook up with the water system. Anoka has an agreement with the City of Andover to provide an interconnect between the systems. The City of Ramsey is suggesting a similar agree ment be reached between Ramsey and Anoka. The two possible locations suggested were by Highway 47 by the Rum River bridge and over by Thurston Ave. Banwart reviewed the Ramsey MSA system noting their efforts to have east/west connecting roads. The McKinley extension was discussed in relation to same. Mr. Banwart stated that Anoka County has a small property near the 116 Bridge area that is unsuitable for many uses. Ramsey is suggesting that that area become a ride share parking area with proper landscaping. It was further sug- gested that a shared Ano~a/Ramsey monument sign be erected at this location. Also discussed was a proposed Dayton/Ramsey river bridge crossing to be located near Foster Island. Other proposed roads were discussed. Of those was a road connecting County road 83 to Armstrong and Ramsey Blvd. and back into Highway 47 which would also help with traffic relief for the AnoVa Co. fairgrounds. Hartley specifically pointed out that this proposed Dayton/ Ramsey bridge is not intended to be in competition with the Anoka/Champlin bridge for the State's considerations. Ramsey reportedly supports the restructuring of the bridge as proposed. The proposed Dayton/Ramsey bridge is long-range planning, potentially in 20 years. Upon discussion of the requested water system connection, Schultz explained that Anoka and Andover have had said agreement for six years and Anoka is developing such an agreement with Coon Rapids also. Schultz stated that if an agreement is entered into between Anoka and Ramsey, that it be done at the time the 116 bridge is built. In further discussion Hartley stated that as of July 1989 Ramsey will have constructed an additional water tower in the River's Bend area which can also serve the needs of Anoka in the event of a disaster. Schultz reported for clarification that Anoka's agreement with Andover is for a one-way connection, noting that Andover does not have iron and manganese treatment for their municipal water. Those same concerns will be held for Ramsey. Discussion continued with the suggested co-community monoment sign. Hartley urged the two cities' consideration of this venture to demonstrate their mutual cooperation. Banwart explained that the parcel involved consists of approximately 2-3 acres. Nagel suggested that the MTC bus line consider it if the two cities decide on a park and ride share area. Banwart pointed out that Ramsey isn't part of the MTC system. Mann suggested that perhaps after the engineers submit the discussed road change sketches that this 2-3 acre triangle may not exist. Schultz reported that the County has already gone out for bids on 116 from Thurston Avenue to the river and expects it to be built before July 1. The bridge will be started yet this summer. Weaver concurred that the suggested monument would be appropriate as the gateway for both cities. DeLuca pointed out that residents and businesses on Rivers Bend were opposed to moving the Highway 47 alignment very far. He felt these concerns should be considered. Hartley pointed out that as proposed the road would not be moved away from them significantly but would improve their location. He suggested that these people could perhaps be brought into future discussion. When suggested by Kirchner that the area may be under utilized and perhaps not the best place for a long-term ride share location, Hartley disagreed in that he felt it would make excellent use of a transitional property. While the triangular property would be within the City of Ramsey and most of their community is not MTC available, they, however, want to make this facility available to Anoka and nearby Ramsey residents.