Agenda - Parks and Recreation Commission - 03/08/1990

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Motion by Comn'fissioner Hendriksen and seconded by Commissioner Deemer to table action on Waste Management's request for a conditional use permit pending v legal opinion from the City Attorney, preparation of proposed findings of fact and conditional use permit, if appropriate. Further Discussion: Commissioner Hendfiksen stated that he doesn't feel there is a need to rush through this case. Mr. Terry Miller stated that he does not have a problem with the motion on the floor but there is a need to deal with facts; the facts include that the development limitation on the subject property was lifted at the time Waste Management was approved for a excavating permit; innuendos of this type being presented to the Commission are time delaying and costly to corporations doing business in Ramsey in addition to the amount of citizen time involved. Commissioner Shumway stated that Mark Banwart has the expertise in this particular field and he supports his recommendation 100%. Commissioner Hendriksen requested that City Staff research whether the development limitation was lifted for the excavation activity specifically or for all activities. Motion carried. Voting Yes: Chairman Zimmerman, Commissioners Hendriksen, LaDue, Shumway and Deemer. Voting No: None. Absent: Commissioners Bawden and Terry. Case #2: Review Establishment Of Information Required On Certificate Of Survey: Mark Banwart stated that per the Commission's direction on January 2, the proposed certificate of survey requirements were forwarded to 14 different surveyors for cost estimates relating to the cost to provide the proposed information; seven responses were received; those responses indicate that the cost to provide the information would range from $150 to $250 over the cost of a simple survey. Chairman Zimmerman stated that in his opinion, the cost estimates are low. Chairman Zimmerman noted that the 'Elevations' section of the proposed certificate of survey information may present problems as the City does not have a system of benchmarks established. Chairman Zimmerman stated that City Council should give some consideration to having a benchmark system established in Ramsey. Motion by Commissioner Shumway and seconded by Commissioner Hendriksen to table information proposed to be required on certificates of survey to allow the Commission more time to revww same. Motion carried. Voting Yes: Chairman Zimmerman, Commissioners Hendriksen, LaDue, Deemer and Shumway. Voting No: None. Absent: Commissioners Bawden and Terry. Case #3: Report On Parliamentary Procedure Workshop: Commissioner Hendr/ksen reported the following as information he gained from the parliamentary procedure workshop held at St. Cloud University: The chairman of the commission is the facilitator of the meeting and part of facilitating a meeting is to keep it moving. Parliamentary procedure can be very protracted and it can be used to hinder a full, open disclosure as well as assure a full, open disclosure. The Chairman is to achieve facilitating a full open disclosure in a fair way but not necessarily to follow parliamentary. procedure to a fault. Commissions have the ability to write their own policies on how Planning & Zoning Commission/February 6, 1990 Page 7 of 8