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Council Work Session
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Joint with Planning and Zoning Commission
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08/16/1988
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1) Understand Metro Council policies and their reason for existence. <br /> <br />2) Recognize where Ramsey stands with it's policies in relationship <br /> to Metro Council policies. <br /> <br />Mr. Hartley stated that the primary topics for discussion will be density <br />and critical rivers. <br /> <br />Paul Baltzersen - Stated that Metro Council sees rural areas as being <br />developed with low density so as not to create a need for urban services. <br />The MUSA area defined is a cooperative effort between the City and Metro <br />Council through the local Comprehensive Plan. In rural areas, Metro <br />Council's policy is 1 unit per 10 acres; 1 per 10 was recommended as a way <br />to maintain rural character and not create a demand for urban services. <br />Metro Council policy says that 1 per 10 will be computed on a 4 units per <br />4.0 acres basis to avoid urban densities in a rural subdivision. <br /> <br />Mr. Hartley presented maps that indicated Ramsey's rural densities are just <br />about developed, the year 2000 urban area, what Ramsey ultimately wants <br />to retain as rural for many years beyond 2000, and the area that would <br />utlimately become urban. Mr. Hartley stated that to maintain a 1 in 10 <br />rural density in that area between urban and what will ultimately be urban <br />is foolhardy; Ramsey is looking for a way to cause the blending of it's <br />policy with Metro Council's. <br /> <br />Mr. Hartley noted that another reason for Metro Council's 1 in I0 rural <br />density is the desire to protect the environment from groundwater <br />pollution. Ramsey has discussed requiring that lots in the rural area have <br />a minimum of 2.5 acres of Class A Soils; this means that in some areas, <br />very larges lots would be needed to meet that requirement. <br /> <br />Josephine Nunn stated that it makes sense to plan for the ultimate urban <br />area; she is not sure Metro Council would agree with including that area <br />in the 2000 year urban boundary. <br /> <br />Paul Baltzersen stated that'the amount of urban area is related to <br />forecasted population households and employment; Metro Council feels Ramsey <br />sewer service area is well represented in it's present 2000 year boundary. <br /> <br />Josephine Nunn stated that Metro Council is concerned that allowing leap <br />frog development will create a premature need for sewer, water, roads <br />and parks. Metro Council is willing to negotiate if cities can provide <br />proof that they are using up their land at a more rapid pace than Metro <br />Council projected. <br /> <br />Mr. Hartley stated that City Staff feels allowing urban development in the <br />ultimate urban area is more reasonable because of the type of development <br />in that area, industrial and residential. Having those services available <br />to clean up after the landfill and to fill the need for services in the <br />Industrial area is desirable; do any of these aspects affect Metro <br />Council's interpretation of it's policy? <br /> <br />Josephine Nunn replied that the pollution aspect does, but not the <br /> City Council-Planning & Zoning/August 16, 1988 <br /> <br />Page 2 of 5 <br /> <br /> <br />
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