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Industrial area aspect. <br /> <br />Paul Baltzersen noted that some of the Industrial area has been included in <br />the identified urban area. <br /> <br />Bob Overby noted that Metro Council shows 100 acres being added to the <br />urban area between 1990 and 2000. <br /> <br />Mr. Hartley replied that Ramsey has proposals for over 80 acres now. Mr. <br />Hartley then provided Metro Council representatives with copies of Ramsey's <br />tax increment policy which encourages urban development over rural <br />development. <br /> <br />Mayor Reimann stated that Ramsey would like to benefit from municipal <br />services by using them to develop commercial and residential areas to place <br />Ramsey in a competitive market with other communities. <br /> <br />Commissioner Shumway stated that Metro Council's limiting of municipal <br />services, especially in the industrial area, is causing a leap frog effect <br />in Ramsey because business are locating in Elk River rather than Ramsey. <br /> <br />Mr. Hartley noted that Metro Council has criticized Ramsey for not <br />utilizing the municipal facilities at the same time it is denying Ramsey <br />extension of those utilities into areas on the fringe of the urban area. <br />Once the current proposals are developed, there will be relative few <br />parcels left in the urban area that can develop that are not zoned <br />Business. <br /> <br />Paul Paltzersen stated that in such circumstances, Metro Council will <br />consider an expansion of the urban service area. <br /> <br />Josephine Nunn stated that Metro Council will also consider exchanging <br />properties in and out of the urban area. <br /> <br />Councilmember DeLuca suggested that a better method might be to base the <br />urban area and extension of utilities on capacity levels rather than <br />specific boundaries. <br /> <br />Mr. Hartley referred to the rural area and stated that the 4 units per 40 <br />acres policy results in the platting of long, narrow 10 acre lots; these <br />kinds of lots cause transportations costs to multiply because of the <br />complexity resulting at resubdivision. An alternative would be to <br />establish the ! in 10 policy with a lead time and making developers aware <br />of their time limit for developing at 2.5 acre minimum lot sizes. Ramsey <br />also wants to preserve the development rights of the last person to develop <br />and doesn't want to support policies that will usurp someone else's right <br />to develop; Ramsey's rural density already exceeds 1 in 10. <br /> <br />Josephine Nunn stated that a lead time to the 1 in 10 policy is not a <br />reasonable approach from Metro Council's point of view. <br /> <br />Chairman Zimmerman noted that minimum lot size in Oak Grove and Andover is <br />2.5 acres and 5 acres in Burns; people will bypass the 10 acre lots in <br /> City Council-Planning & Zoning/August 16, 1988 <br /> <br />Page 3 of 5 <br /> <br /> <br />