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like to get comments fi'om the Planning Commission, and move it to the City Council if al)propriatc, depending on tho comiC Citizen Input Grcg Voss, rcprest:nting Shingobec Builders, thanked the Planning Commission for their time. l-lc stated they haw', done a Iol of w<)rk since they were last here, and he is excited about the plan bclbrc them. l lc tt~inks it is a better plala than it was a month ago. Mr. Voss stated i~ addition tf~ St;~ff".,'. comments, he would like feedback from the Planning Commission on tl';e new plan. ~c: indicated one big issue is the storm water management program. }lc stat;:d lie had a tnee~ing with the County Engineer and others about the internal storm water mmmgcment plan, ami has calculations now being put into a final document that supports their plan. lie indicated erie thing they struggled with was the depth of the ponds, as the ponds adopted wer~' twelve to tiftee~ feet below the finished floor, and they now have them at six to seven feet, which is more rcalisti{. Chairperson Nixt indicated his first issue is the gas station. He asked for an explanation on why it is an essential clement of Coburn"~, a~d if it is a want or a need. Mt'. Voss staled t5~'st, ho h~:sitates '.o t~se the term gas station. He indicated it is really a fuel amenity et' Cotmr~'s. [1¢ holed limt Shingobee Builders does not have a signed deal with Coburn's. lie indi,:ated Coburn's b~ts expressed interest, and has invested in studies of the area, but have not signed an agreement, l~Ie explained one of Coburn's pro forma requires having scvcral market amenities, such as the pharmacy, fuel, a car wash and the liquor store. He indicated they arc trader-parked flora Coburn's perspective, which they say puts them in a difficult position, ~;o they arc look~ng fbr supplemental sureties of the business' success. He stated that accordittg to their studio; lhis is a B to B+ grocery store environment, and therefore they arc looking I'o~' those added sur{:tie.~;. Commissioner [h'a.,icr stated ho is ~hini~ing of the gas station by Riverdale by Rainbow, which they said they m:ed,.~'d and that it wo~llcl only be used by Rainbow patrons, and now everyone uses il. Mt'. Voss agreed II,at station was t-,ideous. He stated this is being designed as an ancillary to Coburn's, and Coburn's would ofl'~:~r incentives for discounts with grocery purchases, etc. He indicated when thc'~,, looked at the ti afl'it programming for this site there are areas of low traffic, whereas with Rainbow and the Cos~:o site the gas station is set out on the road to be a beacon to draw in thc people. Commissioner Brattcr questioned if ,~hcv allowed Coburn's to do this, would others ask. Mi'. Voss indic~:~ted they talked about this with Assistant Community Development Director Trudgcon and wit[, the Tasl< Force and there are not other places where it would be possible Plann ing Commission/May 6, 2004 Page 18 of 22