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Planning and Zoning Commission
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08/12/1985
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I <br />I <br />I <br />I <br />I <br />I <br />I <br />! <br />I <br />I <br />! <br />I <br />I <br />I <br />I <br />I <br />I <br />I <br /> <br />b. (Duncilmember (Dx stated that he hash' t been ~xesented with information <br />at he views as reasons to hire without credentials. Councilme~ber Oox stated <br />that in vie~ of the fact that the Ramsey (lkalition put out literature regarding <br />the high salaries in Ramsay, he thinks applicants should be reviewed in the <br />most extensive manner prior to hiring. <br /> <br />Police Union Ne9o~ tiations: <br /> <br />Mr. Schnelle stated that police oounter offer is a ~o year contract with a <br />4.5% cost of living and $10 health insurance increase. Mr. Schnelle stated <br />that in speaking with the mediator and labor relations, he has found out that <br />Ramsey is belc~ the average. Mr. Schnelle stated that if it goes to <br />arbitration, any items previo~sly agreed to can be reopened for discussion and <br />changed. <br /> <br />(Duncilme~ber Reimann stated that he was under the assumption that arbitration <br />would only address those items that have not been resolved in negotiations. <br /> <br />Mr. Schnelle stated that arbitration will look at Ramsay in the eyes of all <br />other Group 5 cities, cities with a population of 10,000-40,000. <br /> <br />Oouncilmember (Dx stated that Ramsey is in the bottom of Class 5 cities <br />population and tax base wise and when comments like this are made, it appears <br />like we are against the police department. Oouncilmember (Dx stated that <br />Council represents the taxpayers and it is responsible to realize that Ramsey <br />is not a high local aid city. Oouncilmember (Dx stated that the police <br />department is being unfair in expecting a oo~unity having financial trouble to <br />bear that kind of increase. Oouncilme~ber (bx stated that 4.0% and 4.5% does <br />not represent the total increase; the ~hlic never knows what the total <br />increase ~mounts to after the increase in benefits are figured into it. <br />Oouncilmember (Dx questioned why this information is hidden from the ~3blic. <br />Oouncilm~mber (Dx stated that going from $40,000 to $46,000 is more than a 4 or <br />5 percent increase. (Duncilm~ber (Dx stated that the burden of intimindation <br />or haras~ent is all towards Oouncil because (Duncil is trying to be <br />responsible. Oouncilme~ber Oox stated that he is viewed as being mean and that <br />is not the case at all. <br /> <br />Mr. Schnelle stated that the only rec~mendation he can make at this time is <br />that the matter be referred back to the Personnel (ImmLittee for their review, <br />taking into consideration what is staring the City in the face. <br /> <br />Oouncilm~mber (Dx stated that the fact that Andover is 16th lowest in tax levy, <br />17th highest in income, and ranks in the top 5% in hc~e values and has the <br />lowest crime rate in the Metro area should be considered. <br /> <br />fbuncilmember Sorteberg stated that the only concern now is does the City want <br />to go to arbitration and if not, how to keep out of arbitration; a poor or rich <br />comnunity does not have any bearing now -- those points are valid in <br />arbitration. <br /> <br />Motion by Councilmember (Dx and seconded by Mayor Heitman to refer this police <br />negotiation issue back to the Personnel ___~_ 'ttee for their review keeping in <br />mind those items discussed this evening. Further, that the Personnel Oc~mit~ <br /> July 29, 1985 <br /> <br />Page 16 of 22 <br /> <br /> <br />
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