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Chairman Peterson suggested that He, Administrator Schnelle and City Attorney Goodrich get together regarding the permitted uses and definitions. He said the commission felt comfortable with the general definition of "business" the city has. 3. Housing Sizes Chairman Peterson explained the City Council has acted on the housing size change and since then there has been a public outcry against it when the new size houses were going up. Kathy Schneider noted the "Split Level with a 440 Square Foot Garage - 768 Square Feet" in the current ordinance was not mentioned in the motion in which it was acted upon. She stated her only problem was that the council did not come back to the P & Z Commission before making their final action. Ron West said he, Dick Carson and two or three others were at the public hearing and council meeting on housing sizes. City Administrator Schnelle s~id the complaint is from someone who lives in an area of larger type houses where the smaller types are going up. He said the income that is needed to build the type of house that is in there now will prohibit much further building. Ben Deemer said he felt the 2%~acre lot size is what is making the houses expensive and not the house size. City Administrator Schnelle cited the various house sizes in Anoka which did~ t seem to have an affect on the more expensive, larger houses. Ron West noted people are not moving out but are staying in the cities where they are closer to work, shopping centers and day care centers and they are looking at condominiums, townhouses and lots with sewer and water. Kathy Schneider said the commission's complaint was not the smaller house size but that no garages were required. She said she would require that if a development with garages has a few vacant lots left that houses with no garages be prohibited from that development. She said she can see no garage houses in a totally new, unique development. In the past, when people built their homes in Ramsey, they felt they were protected by the city ordinance, but this is no longer true. Motion by Ben Deemer and seconded by Gerald Zimmerman that the original motion from the 6/20/80 Planning & Zoning Cormmission Meeting be referred to the public hearing on housing sizes. Motion carried. VoLing yes-Kathy Schneider, Art Dun, Gerald Zimmerman and Ben Deemer. Voting no-Chairman Peterson, Harry Ellis and Ron West. Ron West was in favor of the current ordinance. Chairman Peterson and Harry Ellis felt the ordinance should not have been changed in the first place. P & Z Regular Meeting Page 4 9/2/80