Minutes - Public Works Committee - 11/21/2017

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explained the reasons given for the additional stop signs are excessive speed and poor visibility rd at the intersection when traveling westbound on 163 Avenue. Public Works Superintendent Riemer reviewed the traffic counts for the area, noting the traffic counts and accident history do not meet warrants to change this to a 4-way stop condition. With regard to the issue of poor visibility, staff would recommend cutting back vegetation in the northwest corner of the intersection. Public Works Superintendent Riemer stated the Police rd Department collected speed data on 163 Avenue on two separate days that showed a range from 8-50 mph with the 85-percentile being 40.84 mph. Public Works Superintendent Riemer stated staff recommends not installing additional stop signs at this intersection based on the low traffic counts and accident history not relating to the intersection. rd Katie Savior, 7165 163 Avenue NW, stated she has two small children and there are other children in the neighborhood. She understands there may not be a vehicle accident at the intersection but there are no sidewalks in this neighborhood so children use the street. Ms. Savior stated she has to be extra careful when backing out of the driveway because people are speeding in this neighborhood at 40 mph. She asked the Public Works Committee to reconsider , citing concerned with the people than a vehicle accident. She stated in the past, stop signs were rd installed on Marble Street instead of the 163 Avenue, which she believed was an error. She felt it was a blind eets or bicycles. Laura Hedlund, 16159 Marble Street NW, Chairperson Riley stated the City does periodically get stop sign requests and every single time, criteria show it is not warranted. Ms. Savior said she understands that and asked what else can be done, noting there is not one single stop sign in this entire neighborhood. She stated by the time people are by her house, they are traveling at 40 mph and there are no speed limit or yield signs along that route. She felt a stop sign was the most logical and asked what can be done to help this neighborhood. Chairperson Riley asked, since the stop sign criteria is not met, what else can be done beyond the Police Department enforcing the speed limit. Public Works Superintendent Riemer stated that is usually what is tried first. Ms. Savior felt that would only help for several days and asked how someone would feel about their kid on a bicycle being hit at 50 mph. rd Councilmember Johns confirmed the traffic count is higher on 163 Avenue. Public Works Committee / November 21, 2017 Page 5 of 16