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as a team both Council and Staff, Council together and Staff together and how do they make sure <br />they are effective. <br /> <br />Mayor Kuzma thought it should also be mentioned that each and every one of those has been <br />dissected and have been through the years to get to this point. A lot of time has been spent on this. <br /> <br />City Administrator stated the balance of rural character and urban growth was the last one that was <br />added, they had the other four before that but as they went through the Comprehensive Planning <br />effort for the 2040 Planning, this came forward as something that was added as a main goal and <br />imperative for the community. He asked if anyone thought any of them should be changed, if they <br />want to adopt more or get rid of one. <br /> <br />Councilmember Woestehoff commented that for the urban character one, that it should read “a <br />balance of suburban growth” as opposed to urban growth, he thought it would better categorize it. <br /> <br />Councilmember Musgrove asked if there are quantitative numbers that go along with urban versus <br />suburban. <br /> <br />Councilmember Woestehoff replied that generically speaking there are, he didn’t know what they <br />are, but didn’t feel that the Council would ever let Ramsey get to an urban category as they would <br />need way more people. He thought it was more about the feel of that sentence. Changing it to <br />suburban softens it a bit and he knows there are people in Ramsey who would never want it to be <br />an urban city. He though suburban is a better descriptor of what they are trying to balance. <br />Technically they are suburban. <br /> <br />Councilmember Musgrove asked what that meant. <br /> <br />Councilmember Woestehoff replied under 30,000. <br /> <br />Councilmember Musgrove agreed adding that is what they have spoken and planned as a vision. <br /> <br />Councilmember Specht suggested it just say “balance of rural character and growth.” <br /> <br />Councilmember Musgrove stated grow could mean anything. <br /> <br />Councilmember Heineman thought it should say suburban, that parts of the City are very suburban <br />and parts are very rural. <br /> <br />Councilmember Specht agreed that made sense. <br /> <br />Councilmember Musgrove stated she knows they use the mission, vision, values and strategies a <br />lot, the values are integrated in the all of those statements, the mission, the vision, the objectives <br />and the strategies. She stated there could be a million values. She asked operationally what is the <br />purpose of having the statement of the values when the mission the vision and the objectives and <br />the strategies capsulates that. That is what she knows is used often when communicating, when <br />City Council Special Work Session / February 15, 2022 <br />Page 11 of 31 <br /> <br />