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Public Works Director Olson stated that as far as a time clock is concerned, his guys come down 30 minutes to an hour before their shift starts. He stated that they talk about what they are going to do that day and if there is a time clock there he thinks it will create an issue. He stated that how they address productivity is by treating the guys like adults and the more they get out of their job, the more productive they are. He thinks this has worked out really well and he is confident that they are being productive. He stated that in Public Works and Engineering, he is also confident that they are not over staffed. He stated that as far as people standing around, they hire an intern every year to be an extra set of eyes and they do just stand around observing. Chair Dehen asked if they could use some sort of productivity tool that would measure this. Public Works Director Olson stated that he has been discussing something with Public Works Supervisor Reimer to try to come up with a measurable goal, based on complaints, for plowing. Chair Dehen stated that he feels this is more of a quality control issue, not productivity. Councilmember Jeffrey asked how Mayor Ramsey measures productivity for his employees. Mayor Ramsey explained the process he uses with work order forms and noted that he has been doing this work for a long time. Councilmember Jeffrey stated that his method is a subjective measure based on quantity and quality of the work. He stated that his opinion is that the time clock issue should get dropped and if there is a productivity issue, he suggested that it first go to City Administrator Ulrich and the department head for resolution before the Council gets involved. Chair Dehen stated that he thinks the issue was brought up by Councilmember McGlone who said that if people work 40 hours a week, that is what they should be paid, but if people only work 36 hours, that is what they should be paid and the City has no way of knowing whether this was really occurring or not. Public Works Director Olson stated that there are a lot of hours that get logged that are not paid because, for example, he calls employees after hours many times on issues that need answers. Councilmember Jeffrey stated that the way it was explained to him by a Councilmember is that the City needs to know when they get here and when they go home and if they are getting out 10 minutes early then we are not paying them for that 10 minutes. He stated that it comes down to treating people like adults. Mayor Ramsey stated that the problem is the Council doesn't know if there is a problem. He asked if it would be too difficult to get some kind of report to see what was accomplished, per week, by each department. He stated that he just needs to have an idea of what is getting done. He stated that he hopes the City isn't creating work to keep people busy. Personnel Committee / February 24, 2009 Page 3 of 5