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Tim Frame, 8901 167th Lane, indicated that they cannot consider the 31 separate fi.om the possible development on the west side of Armstrong. He stated that when talking about sewer and water they need to know exactly what they are going to do with the full plan. He indicated that it does not make sense to do this piecemeal. He stated that he thinks the way people were informed was kind of ignorant. He indicated that people would like to trust their elected officials, and those hired to help run the city. He stated it is too easy to break that trust, and it was broken, and it hurts. He indicated that people do read the City newsletter, and it should have been in there. He stated he would guarantee there would have been a reaction. He indicated that when you have a notice that you know most people will not look at, you are deceiving people. Steve Slettner, TEC Design & Engineer responsible for both projects, indicated that he wants to make it clear that there is a cluster ordinance, and that they are here under that ordinance. He stated that he is not a resident, but both developers are fi.om Ramsey. He indicated that he gets every Planning Commission agenda and City Council agenda through a web link directly to his email. He stated he is not here to argue the cluster ordinance, because there is a cluster ordinance. Mr. Sletmer indicated that on July 12, 2005 they presented a concept. He stated that was eight months ago, and at that time they were told there was a study the City was doing on road plans, and they were asked to wait, which they did. He indicated that they were then told there was an intersection that they would need to connect to, and they are complying with that also. He stated they are not asking for variances, and added that there would be a sidewalk. Mr. Slettner stated that they are trying to plan for future development by providing stubs, but those stubs do not have to continue until the adjoining property owners want to develop. He indicated that they have heard clearly that the adjacent property owners do not want to develop now, but if their children inherit the land, or at some time it is sold, they may want that stub. He stated that they are preserving that option. Mr. Sletmer indicated that they have met with the MPCA and reviewed the standards and requirements, and there is a 90-day review period that they developer will work through with the MPCA. He stated that the technology of the septic system they are using is different than just expanding a single-family system. He indicated that what they are doing is taking a City septic system and bringing it down to a smaller scale, which provides a much better option. He stated that the septic system will have a management company monitoring it, rather than just the homeowners association. He indicated there are similar systems being used in other cities successfully. Shirley Wensmann, 16770 Andre Street, stated that the Planning Commission needs to take a look at Ramsey as a whole. She indicated that they have one-acre lots, and two-acre lots, and then there are these clusters. She stated they look like blisters on the community. She indicated that she thinks it is okay for the Planning Commission to say Ramsey will be different than other cities doing clusters. She stated that the Planning Commission needs to look at the city as a whole on how it develops. She noted that she is one of the people that has a lien on her property because this develop did not pay the sub-contractors. Planning Commission/March 2, 2006 Page 23 of 31 -37-