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Community Development Director Trudgeon quoted the following from the minutes of the September 20, 2005 Council work session: The Council discussed the proposed sketch plan for Wild Oaks of Ramsey, including the following issues: pre-existing road extension to the south; possibility of stub road to west; the need for water access for emergency situations; and the length of the proposed cul-de-sac. The consensus of the Council was that the cul-de-sac for Wild Oaks of Ramsey is too long as presented, and to suggest that the developer contact the landowner to the west to determine the possibility of working together and extending a road connection to the west to provide access to the subdivision. Mr. Maloney stated the preparation of a cluster septic system is essentially a final document that was required for the Planning and Zoning to even consider the preliminary plat. This development could be constructed tomorrow with essentially $50,000 worth of final design completed. Councilmember Elvig informed Mr. Maloney the documents that have been prepared will likely be able to be utilized soon. He asked if this application will fall under the moratorium if it is tabled tonight. Community Development Director Trudgeon responded in the affirmative. He advised the 120 day timeline needs to be adhered to as well; action is required tonight. Councilmember Cook stated he likes this subdivision; it has a lot of merit for the City. However, dating back to September the Council expressed their opposition to the single access and the 1,100 foot cul-de-sac. He does not see how this development can go forward without that being addressed. He is sorry the extra money was put into designing this development but he does not think it was wasted. He suggested the applicant proceed with a hardship case in relation to the moratorium; however, a commitment is needed regarding the extension of 171 st Avenue. Councilmember Elvig stated his main concern in this area is the fire protection issue. It is one thing to have rural lots located on ½ or 1 acre, but another to have them clustered to an urban density with houses side by side, and to then have a fire without a hydrant nearby. The review of the cluster ordinance should include a look at fire suppression. In talking with the Fire Chief and other people, the problem during a fire is saving the neighbors once you are there. Councilmember Jeffrey concurred. Jim Lang, property owner, stated he understands the concem regarding the cul-de-sac, but it seems to him they were led to believe that a variance would be processed along with the preliminary plat as is indicated in the Staff Letter of January 27, 2006 as follows: "A temporary cul-de-sac at the end of Nutria Street is indicated. Nutria Street must be constructed to City Standards. A variance is being processed with the preliminary plat application." He stated there City Council / May 9, 2006 Page 13 of 30