Agenda - Public Works Committee - 07/18/2006

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placement of temporary all way (three way) stop signs at the intersections of Kamacite Street and 148th Avenue and Kamacite Street and 147th Lane. These stop signs are not intended to control speed through the neighborhood, but rather are being placed to emphasis the need to assign right of way because the through traffic may be unfamiliar with local traffic conditions. These temporary stops signs shall be removed upon termination of the county road closures. Staff recommends that police patrol be focused to ensure compliance with the 30 mph speed limit and that the use of the speed trailer be continued, and that a temporary all way (three way) stop signs be placed at the intersections of Kamacite Street and 148'h Avenue and Kamacite Street and 147'h Lane. These temporary stops signs shall be removed upon termination of the county road closures. Chairperson Elvig noted the stop signs could be a nuisance for those traveling through the neighborhood and a detriment to people that try to use it as a back door. Councilmember Olson stated the recommendation sounds reasonable at this point. This is a temporary situation, and situations like this are always an inconvenience for residents, but there is light at the end. ofthe tunnel. The big issue is that people are safe. Councilmember Cook concurred. Police Chief Way stated he has discussed the situation with Public Works Director Olson; police , officers will try to be present in the neighborhood as often as they can, but it will be in time periods of 15 and 20 minutes here and there. Wayne Grover, 7040 147'h Avenue NW, stated the main problem is that a speed limit of30 mph is too fast for this subdivision; there are little kids playing out there, He suggested the road be posted with a sign stating Closed to Through Traffic, The big concern is the 18 wheelers, belly dumps, construction trucks and delivery trucks coming through. He suggested a sign be posted at the entrance with a weight restriction. He stated the stop signs are a great temporary situation; the main time people fly through is in the morning and the evening. He stated the other day his . son pulled out and was almost hit because someone didn't stop at the intersection. Public Works Director Olson indicated state guidelines are always followed when the City posts weight restrictions, and this is only done in the spring and the fall. Chairperson E1vig commented there must be the ability to tag a belly dump truck driving on a street that is posted as Closed to Through Traffic. Police Chief Way explained a sign stating Not a Through Street or Local Traffic Only is open to interpretation. The City must be able to defend the ticket that is written, and cannot restrict people from using a local street. Nancy Masters, 7151 148'h Lane NW, stated she lives behind Ramsey Market. She has seen kids drag race down that road, a man pulled up on her lawn, and she has seen kids 'almost get hit numerous times, Public Works Committe.e I June 20, 2006 Page 4 of 15