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consideration their feelings and hard work would be inappropriate. Councilmember Haas Steffen <br />responded that the exclusion portion of the proposed ordinance is to protect the City if protection <br />is needed and she is waiting for legal advice to see if it is needed. She reiterated that past <br />practice has not been according to the law for the past 14 years and she is trying to stay in a <br />neutral zone - not allowing buyers and developers to sue the City for their losses. She suggested <br />if we wait until the next meeting, we will know how to proceed and we have hurt neither party. <br />Mr. Nixt interpreted that as the City trying to find an economic out. He stated he is addressing <br />the Council as a resident of the City and that he is feeling angry about this. He believes this is <br />about justification, vindication and rights. Wayne Johnson, representing Mr. Barthold who is the <br />owner of the property that's at the center of this issue, stated that Mr. Nixt does not own that 60 <br />acres, Jake Barthold does. He suggested that Mr. Nixt is very articulate and persuasive, but there <br />are still property rights in this country and a land owner may sell his land to a developer. Mr. <br />Johnson understood that Mr. Nixt brought a map that he obtained from the City and he <br />characterized that as the map the City gives to the public to define the MUSA - that is not <br />accurate. He added that even though he does have a financial interest in this matter, property <br />owners still have rights and the property owners ought to have a say as well as the neighbors. <br />John Peterson, developer of the proposed Apple Ridge, informed Council that he would have to <br />explore his legal rights also. He pointed out that Mr. Barthold has been told over a period of <br />years that his property is zoned a certain way and he's made economic decisions based on that. <br />We need to find out what a citizen's rights are in relying on information given by it's <br />government. We are hoping that the courts will honor that information the City has given us and <br />that Council will recognize that you have a moral obligation to back up these statements and the <br />information. Christian, 7330 - 155th Avenue NW, Ramsey, suggested that just because the land <br />owner has 60 acres shouldn't mean he has more say, if the neighbors put all their parcels <br />together, that would equal more land. He added "we do not want people stacked like cordwood". <br />Terry Hendriksen, 15631 Ramsey Boulevard NW, Ramsey, stated that he is the one that walked <br />to the window at City Hall and asked for a copy of the comprehensive plan. The 1994 version is <br />what was provided to him and he opened the map that depicts the MUSA line and that's the map <br />that does not include the 40 acres of Apple Ridge. He stated that the comprehensive plan <br />amendment has gone on for years. The reason, in his opinion, is because we, as a City, could not <br />form a consensus on what should be there. He felt it's inappropriate to proceed as if we had <br />adopted this. There were very real concerns and no one could get the affirmative votes to pass <br />that plan. Douglas Fountain, 15255 Garnet Street NW, Ramsey, believed that Mr. Hendriksen is <br />a good part of this problem as he (Hendriksen) spent 14 to 16 years on the Planning Commission. <br />Rick Hasbrook, 6040 Radium Circle NW, Ramsey, stated that we (the existing neighborhood) <br />are not against Mr. Peterson building houses; we are against the density. It's about our rights as <br />citizens to live our life the same. Councilmember Zimmerman stated he feels there is a problem <br />in this area and that the moratorium should apply to Apple Ridge subdivision also. This needs to <br />get straightened out. Ms. Svare thanked Mr. Zimmerman for his support and for speaking out for <br />the residents. She added that, as far as Terry Hendriksen being a part of the problem, she felt <br />people were just jealous of his knowledge of the City. Mayor Gamec pointed out that he has <br />several questions that need answering but he did not have a problem introducing the ordinance <br />because it can be changed. Councilmember Zimmerman stated that there is a problem because it <br />is not clear if Apple Ridge is in the MUSA. If our attorney tells us that it is not in the MUSA, <br />and we have taken action, we may be liable. Our attorney has already told us there may be a <br /> <br /> City Council/March 11, 1997 <br /> Page 7 of 13 <br /> <br /> <br />