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<br />Community Development Director Trudgeon replied the permit relates to installation. <br />Councilmember Dehen inquired about second violations vvithin a 12 month period resulting in <br />higher penalties. Police Chief Way explained the first citation will be $50, an additional <br />violation within that 12 month period would have an additional $50 fee, and if there is a third <br />violation in a 12 month period the fme would be $150. Councilmember Dehenstated the only <br />other change he would request is that they have a dangerous dog license listed at $500. <br />Dangerous dogs are a big problem and he would ask that license amount go up to $2,000 to be <br />cost prohibitive in any resident housing this type of dog, especially in light of there being a <br />number of incidents recently with dogs biting kids. Usually these injuries are significant. City <br />Attorney Goodrich advised these fees have to be of some relationship to the effort staff puts in to <br />the licensing, such as with things like background investigations. Police Chief Way indicated the <br />City charges for the sign that is provided and does an inspection. There are very few of these <br />dogs because of the insurance. Ramsey has had two or three in the last five to seven years. That <br />tag sticks with the dog, and if they move the dog somewhere they are required to notify where <br />the dog is going. Councilmember Dehen stated sometimes the dangerous dog designation has <br />been eliminated after a year and he wants to be sure the City is getting plenty of license fees if <br />people are going to own those dangerous animals. Police Chief Way indicated the Police <br />Department goes out a couple of times and they give the owner a sign. The big key is the <br />insurance. Usually they cannot get insurance, and it is so cost prohibitive that they put the dog <br />duwn. Councilmember Elvig requested information regarding what is classified as a dangerous <br />dog. Police Chief Way indicated the classification is based on the second biting incident; it is <br />not based on the severity of the bite and it has nothing to do with the species. Councilmember <br />Dehen stated if a dog bites someone it is declared potentially dangerous and the owner has the <br />right to appeal that designation. If it bites twice it is designated dangerous. If it is designated <br />dangerous the owner is supposed to muzzle it and keep it in a kennel. That dangerous dog <br />designation will carry through the balance ofthat dog's life with a requirement that the dog have <br />a microchip in the ear. However, a prosecutor may say they will allow someone to have a <br />dangerous dog designation for one year and then it goes away. This was a Ranlsey case and that <br />dog is now no longer considered dangerous. These signs can be removed. He is not in favor of <br />very low licenses if they can discourage that type of thing through licensing and justify it. Police <br />Chief Way suggested rather than with the licensing, if someone's dog bites that it is addressed <br />through the fme, rather than a fee. Councilmember Dehen suggested fees at $200 for the first bit <br />and $2,000 for the second bite. If the dog bites once it will bite again. Usually they get kids and <br />it will be in the face. City Attorney Goodrich indicated he and Police Chief Way can review this <br />section. It cannot be done through fees; it could be addressed through the fme penalty or <br />prohibiting them. . Councilmember Ehrig suggested amending the language to state 'home <br />structure moving permit', rather than simply 'moving permit', and that the septic tank fee be <br />clarified by stating 'septic tank installation fee'. Councilmember Look inquired how the $50 <br />charge for signs plays out with regard to the Council direction that no signs would be in the <br />right-of-way. He asked in what situation the signs referred to would apply. Police Chief Way <br />replied this refers to un-permitted signs. There would be an administrative ticket and if someone <br />wants to appeal there is an appeal process. <br /> <br />Motion carried. Voting Yes: Mayor Gamec, Councilmembers Ehrig, Olson, Dehen, Jeffrey, and <br />Look. Voting No: None. Absent: Councilmember Strommen. <br /> <br />City Council / August 28, 2007 <br />Page 25 of 33 <br /> <br />P73 <br />
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