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the commission level. That was not because staff was manipulating the process, it was <br />because the commissions had differing opinions. He stated that he had informed Council <br />that the commissions had an impasse and that Council should do something about it. <br />Council said the Commissions should "take another stab at it". The Planning Commission <br />agreed to this; however, the EDC did not. Mr. Gromberg had nothing to do with that other <br />than some data that might have been wrong - not malfeasance - bad data. Thafs not like <br />anyone saying I'm going to lie to someone. Councilmember Beyer commented that it was <br />bad judgement. He's (Gromberg) responsible to work well with both commissions. <br />These memos indicate he was not working well with the Planning Commission. The <br />perception is there that he was working his own agenda. I feel we are on the right track by <br />getting our questions down and having him answer them. Let's let the people put <br />questions on paper. Councilmember Beyer added that it does not have to be for <br />disciplinary action. Councilmember Beahen felt that if the concerns are specifically targeted <br />at Jim Ca'omberg, Council will not get the big picture. Councilmember Peterson stated that <br />he had asked if the issue should be on the entire process or specifically Mr. Gromberg. <br />Councilmember Zimmerman stated that the big problem is not enough involvement in the <br />plan. Councilmember Peterson stated his feeling had been that Council should wait until <br />they knew all the players - that's why Council decided to not do anything when Mr. <br />Schroeder first approached us about this. He inquired of Councilmembers Beyer and <br />Zimmerman if they were "out to get" Jim Gromberg. Councilmember Zimmerman stated <br />he is not out to get any one. Councilmember Peterson said "I think you are. You did not <br />want the comprehensive plan, in general, discussed, you wanted specifics on Mr. <br />Gromberg". He commented that we are not going to discuss where the bridge should be. <br />Councilmember Zimmerman inquired what value that would be. Councilmember Beahen <br />inquired if Council is headed in the right direction. She stated it seems you are questioning <br />Mr. Crromberg and the process. She felt there could possibly be other issues besides Mr. <br />Gromberg and if Mr. Gromberg is the only target, Council will not know what the other <br />issues are. She felt she could not make a decision. Councilmember Zimmerman stated we <br />are not looking at what happened with the bridge alignment - we are looking at the players. <br />Councilmember Beahen stated she is saying we should include more than just Jim <br />Gromberg. Councilmember Peterson stated that it's easy to take shots at other people. He <br />felt that first Mr. Gromberg should have a chance to answer to the specific charges. <br />Councilmember Zimmerman suggested putting a clause in the memo that only these things <br />will be dealt with. Councilmember Peterson stated we need to bring in all the commission <br />members if we do what Carolyn mentioned. Councilmember Zimmerman inquired how <br />you could get anything done if we have 20 people here. He felt all concerns should be <br />written beforehand. <br /> <br />Motion amended by Councilmember Beyer and seconded by Councilmember Peterson to <br />include just Terry Hendriksen, Ben Deemer and Dave Bawden and if any other <br />Councilmember has any information in direct relationship with Mr. Gromberg. <br /> <br />Further discussion: Mr. Schroeder stated what he thinks he is hearing is there have been <br />assertions made in the memos. If you get support of the assertion, we will respond to <br />these facts. The facts might be best answered by me (Schroeder). If we are only looking <br />at staff, maybe others should be in attendance. If slanted toward disciplinary for only Mr. <br />Gromberg, then he should be here. If it is for purely fact finding purposes, then other staff <br />should be included as well. Councilmember Beyer stated that if Council then decides there <br />should be disciplinary action, then Council could direct Mr. Schroeder to discuss this with <br />Mr. Gromberg. At this point, it would be purely fact finding. Mr. Schroeder stated that <br />the memos address most specifically Jim Gromberg. The facts Council is requesting from <br />these three individuals are relative to assertions, not necessarily Jim Gromberg. <br />Councilmember Beyer stated we will not know what these facts are until we get them back <br />from these three individuals. You .can make the determination who should be there. You <br /> <br />City Council/May 10, 1995 <br /> Page 8 of 11 <br /> <br /> <br />