Minutes - Public Works Committee - 04/21/2009

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Mr. David Rauen asked why was the road allowed to reach the state it is in now? If it is overlayed and in two years it fails, where are they at then? What does the overlay consist of? Assistant City Engineer Jankowski replied it is 1 'lj inch of bituminous overlay. Public Works Director/Principal City Engineer Olson replied to question Number 1. The roads were rated and staff does the best with the resources available and that road caught up with us. Mr. David Rauen asked if the petition goes through and the City just does patching and four years later the road fails, is the property owners then stuck with the entire cost? Public Works Director Olson/Principal City Engineer responded with what we expect from our roadways in the City. A newly constructed roadway at five years receives a sealcoat. Another five to seven years (year 12) another sealcoat. Year 19 is when an overlay is done. Mr. Ross Chambers, 6285 143rd Lane, came to the meeting just to find out what was going on and feels his improvement project is on an opposite spectrum of the Barthel's Rum River 2nd improvement project. He thought he could try to save the City some money and the property owners some money by decreasing the maintenance schedule because he feels his road is in better shape than the Barthel's Rum River 2nd Addition project. Public Works Supervisor Grant Riemer responded that Mr. Ross Chambers road is currently rated at a five. Motion by Mayor Ramsey, seconded by Councilmember McGlone, to recommend to the City Council to order the projects as proposed with a letter being sent out to the residents with a final review by the City Administrator. Motion carried: Voting Yes: Vice Chair Dehen, Mayor Ramsey, Councilmember McGlone. Voting No: None. Absent: Councilmember Elvig Case #2: Discussion of Storm Sewer Improvements within Alpaca Estates for Ramsey Commons City Engineer Tim Himmer stated the applicant of this case Steve Young is in the audience tonight for the Ramsey Commons project which was approved by City Council in May of 2008 which is located at the northwest comer of Armstrong and Riverdale. This is within the Alpaca Estates subdivision and is jointly owned property to the west which is Alpaca Estates 4th addition. City Engineer Tim Himmer explained that there is a regional pond approximately 1200 feet to the west and the applicant is requesting to split the ponding capacity between the two and staff is agreeable to that. Staff is recommending Option 2 allowing the applicant to write down a portion of the initial installation cost of the pond outlet with their storm development fee, and the pipe over-sizing to a trunk line paid through the stormwater utility fund. Vice Chair Dehen asked what is the detriment and benefit to the City by going with Option 2. Public Works Committee / April 21, 2009 Page 3 of9