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' LRRWMO Meeting Minutes December 21, 1988 Page 3 was broad and restrictive; however, he concurred with the No Wake portion. It was his position that residents living on the river wouldn't harm their neighbors' property to the extent that incoming river traffic might. Schrantz explained that the ordinance as proposed was a starting point in addressing the issues and is somewhat flexible. He added that residents attending Andover's public hearing also expressed that 5 H.P. is too low, but concurred that erosion is a concern. Schrantz stated that Andover is more restrictive than Ramsey along the river in that the DNR negotiated with the.various cities independently. Mathisen felt that it;was significant that the posting sign at the access area did a pretty good job, as reported. Mr. Buyse stated that it did restrict the bigger boats. He added that he would be in favor of some restrictions on some of the bigger boats; but 5 H.P. was unreasonable. Mike Wilber, 427 Polk St., Anoka, reported that he has a 14 ft. aluminum boat and has a 15 H.P. motor on it. He felt that much of the river traffic is conducted by courtesy. When he opens up his motor there reportedly isn't much wake at all. He pays taxes to use the river and tries to be sensitive to the people on the Rum. However, he concurred that there should be some restrictions. He too agreed that a No Wake restriction would be beneficial. Mr. Wilber felt that to restrict the river, especially to the residents on the river, would be disappointing. He stated that reducing speed is more important than the motor size, as well as instituting a No Wake area. Weaver was not comfortable that a Wild and Scenic River area should be used for speed and water skiing. Those present discussed a staged regulation process whereby a No Wake area would be designated as well as a maximum motor size. Buyse added that the speed allowed could be based on the particular part of the river being navigated, giving significant attention to the densely residential areas. Raatikka reported that further north on the river the p eople with high banks aren't having the reported problems; however, perhaps they have established vegitation. Upon further discussion of resident vs. non - resident restrictions, Schrantz felt that it would be inconsistent to restrict non - residents and not residents, as was suggested. It can't be permitted on public waters. Schrantz suggested putting in a speed limit or No Wake areas and not limit the horsepower. Mathisen stated that in most areas posted as No Wake, most people obey the signage. He requested that the history of the past 10 H.P. limit sign be investigated, how long it was up, and why it was taken down. Part of signing problems is that the signs have to be maintained.