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LRRWMO Meeting Minutes August 17, 1995 Page 5 be required. He also recommends providing energy dissipation at the dewatering discharge points to minimize the potential for erosion problems from occurring. It was noted that Pearson (legal counsel) recommends the Plan Update specifically address this type of situation. Jankowski reported on a small erosion washout which occurred along a county roadway by a watermain utility project and asked if this is covered by the MPCA requirements. Obermeyer indicated it is, and there is some overlapping authority but really becomes a matter of trying to make sure the problem does not develop to begin with and to reinforce those requirements. It was noted the Uniform Building Code also deals with erosion. Jankowski asked if every City project should come in for a permit. Obermeyer stated they should if there is an impact. Weaver concurred and reviewed Pearson's comment that "I do believe that the Commission should subject itself to the same review, and its members should subject themselves to the same review, as individuals who are doing work within the watershed. The goal of the Commission is to protect the water resources in the watershed, and that goal is not changed because the project is being constructed by a governmental agency." Jankowski stated that while he does not disagree with this statement, he does see a difference between a City project and a developer's project because the City constructs utility projects which, after construction is completed, does not alter the drainage patterns and there is no net change in drainage within the Watershed. As opposed to a developer's project which alters the land, creates impervious area and changes drainage patterns: Schultz noted that City projects can also change drainage with grades even over sewer and water lines. He pointed out that the Plan says the LRRWMO will review all governmental rn ojects and does not qualify it in any way based on cost of the project, acres involved, etc. Obermeyer noted there are really two issues involved, erosion that can occur during construction activity, and what is coming off the development on the ultimate basis. He noted there can be just as much detrimental effect on water quality resources if erosion is not properly addressed. And, a sewer system or water system construction project can be just as great an impact during construction. Obermeyer reviewed how other watersheds handle projects of this type. Haas informed that Andover requires the developer to obtain all agency permits (Corp., DNR, ACD, etc.) before the application is heard by the Planning Commission. He explained that they did not get a permit for the Indian Meadows utility project but did make them comply with Andover's Local Water Management Plan and the LRRWMO requirements.